Mr Why: Understanding Sellwood Bridge/Clack Co Car Tax Issue in One Sitting

December 28, 2010

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The entire Clackamas County vehicle registration fee debate has played out at this Oregonian story. Supporters of the fee tried every lame angle over and over again. See the give and take after the jump.

richard2 December 20, 2010 at 7:40AM


It sure is amazing how this story gets twisted.
Over and over again the $5 dollars, or it’s near collapse, or the vital link, or who uses it, or that Multnomah County is stuck with a $19 fee obscures the real oppostion and problem.
Forget all of those. Here is why Clackamas County will not go along with this scheme.
1. Negligence. Portland and Multnomah County have neglected their bridge for decades as they diverted countless millions away from this “vital link” in the past.
2. Continued negligence. Nothing has changed. Portland, Multnomah County, Clackams County and the region are currently planning to divert 100s of millions more from other infrastructure needs to pay for Milwaukie Light Rail.
3. Conniving. Portland Mayor Sam Adams is planning on raiding $20 million from the Sellwood bridge funding for Milwaukie Light Rail.
4. Not a priority. Clackamas County residents do not want the $1.5 Billion Milwaukie Light Rail.
5. Commissioners wrong. Clackamas County commissioners are thumbing their noses at their own county as they misappropriate millions more.
6. The Sellwood Bridge replacement has never been dependent upon a Clackamas County fee. The bridge will get rebuilt without it while officials throw a tantrum.
7. Clackamas residents will pay a share anyway through the ODOT and fed shares.
8. Clackamas residents know the $5 fee will become permanent, increase to $40 and be misappropriated by their commissioners.
9. Portland can pay for their own design. They have selected a new bridge design with same 24 ft of travel lanes and 37 feet of ped/bike surface.
10.Clackamas County residents are rejecting their commissioner’s attempt to follow Multnomah County’s agenda.
chasbo44 December 20, 2010 at 8:36AM

Richard2 is right on the money. In addition to the points he mentioned there are other points to be made.
(1) Why would Clackamas County residents want to pay for the infrastructure in another county? I can think of countless areas in Clackamas County used every day by residents from neighboring counties. Are we going to stand there with our hand out each time they pass by?
(2) Portland has a saying that they wish to “keep Portland weird”. Residents of Clackamas County certainly love our strange neighbors to the north, but we like to keep it somewhat normal out here, just to help balance out the area a bit. The picture Portland has in mind with respect to mass transit, development, and other metro issues does not very often line up with the future direction Clackamas County residents might hope for. A 5 dollar fee may not be a lot of money, but to be in favor of this sends a message that Clackamas County residents are in line with the direction Portland Government is headed. A vote of the people might reveal a different mindset.
richard2 December 20, 2010 at 9:36AM

macmccown
Your dishonest red herring that the bridge may be lost is right out of Peterson’s play book.
The bridge will get rebuilt without this ginned up fee.
However if the bridge fell down tomorrow it would be the fault of those you support who diverted billions into boondoggles over decades.
And they continue their madness today. It’s indefensible and why their cronies like you use these red herrings and attack the messengers.
There is no need for tolls or any other connived idea.
The Sellwood bridge replacement is long over due there is plenty of existing money to pay for it.
While claiming there is not, conniving politicians are working with TriMet and Metro to hijack 100s of millions from gas taxes meant for existing infrastructure, property taxes meant for schools and public safety & Lottery profits meant for essential priorities.
All of which feed existing jobs and payrolls.
$200 million from Metro flex funds alone are heading to the MLR instead of the Sellwood bridge and other priorities.

Sam Adams and Chair Lynn Peterson (former Metro employee) insist on spending 100s of millions on their agenda instead of the public’s priorities.

Anyone who has any integrity will admit the Sellwood bridge replacement is a much higher priority than the Milwaukie Light Rail or the tax subsidized development plans that follow it everywhere it goes.
The press and everyone honest needs to know exactly what is going on here.
Starting with this recent poll the media is suppressing.
Nov. 22 Survey of Clackmas County residents
Pay for Sellwood Bridge No 76%
Car Tax No 84%
Milwaukie Light Rail No 71%
Chair Peterson has been working behind the scenes to subvert the will of the people. In the fee hearing process Peterson attempted to rig the process by stacking the deck with e-mail support from Portland bike groups masquerading as Clackamas residents. She got help from Portland resident and left wing activist Jonathan Nicholas. Her peer from the Metro bike committee they both serve on.
Their methods are only further angering Clackamas residents which is building towards recall efforts.

Instead of criticizing Clackamas County taxpayers, Multnomah County taxpayers should be grabbing their own pitch forks and fix their own county. Repeal your fee and demand the misappropriation stop.
But perhaps you are a lost cause? The bridge replacement design with 24 ft for road surface and 37 ft for ped/bike use suggests so.

richard2 December 20, 2010 at 11:15AM

Becky,
Multnomah County residents are already paying the fee because they are Multnomah County and incapable of resistance. I wonder if there is any price that will anger them enough.

It’s a meaningless cannard but Clackamas County residents DONOT use the bridge more than Multnomah County and they already are paying out something toward the new bridge. Their gas taxes are going to the bridge through the Oregon Department of Transportation and federal shares.

econoline,
Yes it is very much like Clark County. They don’t want any of the costly Portland agenda either.
Not the outrageously expensive Light Rail or any of the subsidized development that Metro calls “smart” growth.

The $100 million CRC planning has already been made entirely dysfunctional by the Sam Adams/Portland involvement. Raising the cost of a new bridge by probably 2 billion.
Good thing Clark County is rejecting the conniving agenda just like Clackamas County.

It appears Washington County may have had enough as well. Recognizing the waste of WES, big disputes over Metro’s urban/rural reserves sham and the halt to Beaverton’s big Portland-like Urban Renewal Plan are good signs.

richard2 December 20, 2010 at 5:23PM

It’s obvious what is going on here.
The portland/bike/trimet activists are stacking the comments.
Notice how none of them address the real core reasons for the Clackamas oposition?
That’s exactly what the county commissioners have been doing.
I challenge any of you to respond to the 1-10 numbered reasons in my first post.
boomer1949
Boy are you ever right out of the halls of TriMet.
And lying like it’s the honorable thing to do.
TriMet was a huge advocate for WES, took the point, managed the public campaign, TriMet’s Joe Walsh ran out the propaganda, they got the feds to change their funding rules and managed the entire project.
Never did TriMet ever do anything but support and promote the project.
People should take note of your claim that “TriMet was just stuck with running it” and know this is how the conniving TriMet/Metro cabal operates.
With guys like you delivering the ginned up crap and ignoring the real debate.
And you tell me to do my homework?
Even today TriMet is proud of WES and seek to expand it to Salem.

Why don’t you stick to real opposition?

And go out and start a petition to stop the collection of the $38 fee in Multnomah County?
There is no need for any news fee or toll for the Sellwood bridge.
We need only widen the demand for current funding to be used.
But you aren’t paying attention. Otherwise you would realize Metro will be diverting $200 million from regional funds (more cc share) to Milwaukie Light Rail.
TriMet is to blame.
Go back and re-read the earlier comments and be honest about the real reasons why Clackamas County voters will kill the new fee.
richard2 December 20, 2010 at 8:35PM

ohreallyfactor,
Hey you’re starting to get it finally. Except the fence is being built by Clackamas and Clark Counties because they do not want the TriMet/Metro agenda Multnomah insists is the model for the nation.
davejor,
Bingo,,,nail on head, home run. No they don’t like public votes.
That’s exactly what the Clackamas County commissioners are trying to avoid.
Guess who did the Sellwood bridge “Travel Forecasting” with all of the flawed assumptions and conclusions used to promote a two lane bridge replacement and north-south light rail?

Assumptions like a “four lane bridge would increase traffic 15% on the bridge. Followed by concluding that added traffic would “conflict with plans for more mixed use development on Tacoma Street”.

http://www.sellwoodbridge.org/ProjectLibrary/SouthWillametteRiverCrossingStudy-May1999.pdf

Travel Forecasting
Lynn Peterson, Transportation Modeling, Metro (Current Chair, Clackamas County Commission)

imoksoami December 21, 2010 at 7:40AM

Wonder why no one is addressing Richard2’s post. This does look like more unneccesary taxes – why should light rail come b4 funding a bridge that is ready to collapse? Sounds like people are ok with being suckered by Sam and friends.

richard2 December 20, 2010 at 7:40AM
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It sure is amazing how this story gets twisted.
Over and over again the $5 dollars, or it’s near collapse, or the vital link, or who uses it, or that Multnomah County is stuck with a $19 fee obscures the real oppostion and problem.
Forget all of those. Here is why Clackamas County will not go along with this scheme.
1. Negligence. Portland and Multnomah County have neglected their bridge for decades as they diverted countless millions away from this “vital link” in the past.
2. Continued negligence. Nothing has changed. Portland, Multnomah County, Clackams County and the region are currently planning to divert 100s of millions more from other infrastructure needs to pay for Milwaukie Light Rail.
3. Conniving. Portland Mayor Sam Adams is planning on raiding $20 million from the Sellwood bridge funding for Milwaukie Light Rail.
4. Not a priority. Clackamas County residents do not want the $1.5 Billion Milwaukie Light Rail.
5. Commissioners wrong. Clackamas County commissioners are thumbing their noses at their own county as they misappropriate millions more.
6. The Sellwood Bridge replacement has never been dependent upon a Clackamas County fee. The bridge will get rebuilt without it while officials throw a tantrum.
7. Clackamas residents will pay a share anyway through the ODOT and fed shares.
8. Clackamas residents know the $5 fee will become permanent, increase to $40 and be misappropriated by their commissioners.
9. Portland can pay for their own design. They have selected a new bridge design with same 24 ft of travel lanes and 37 feet of ped/bike surface.
10.Clackamas County residents are rejecting their commissioner’s attempt to follow Multnomah County’s agenda.
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richard2 December 21, 2010 at 8:37AM

Don’t worry there is an Oregonian editorial coming with every bromide, cannrd and red herring the Clackamas County commissioners and their bike army have coughed up.
At the Dec 9th hearing when the fee was adopted Commissioner Bernard gave a powerpoint to justify his vote. He showed pictures of the collapsed Minneapolis bridge and other irrelevent filler.
Anything but address the malfeascence that has angered the public.
Other commisioners lectured the public on the responsibility to mainatina infrastructure.
Since they are the neglecters of infrastructure they could not be more hypocritical and insulting.
If anyone in Clackamas County had any remaining doubts about their County Commissioners acting as Portland lobbyists this should remove them.

It’s bad enough the newspapers refused to report the poll of Clackamas County residents.

Pay for part of Sellwood Bridge 76% NO
New car registration tax 84% NO
Milwaukie Light Rail 71% NO


But they have no problem reporting anything cooked up by the County Commissioners.

After 185 people show up at one hearing, 175 at the second and a county poll showing overwhelming opposition to the county plan for a vehicle registration fee for Multnomah County’s Sellwood bridge County Chair Lynn Peterson comes up with this.

“The commission had heard from a vocal contingent of opposition to the fee increase during a three-part public hearing, but counted a larger number in support of the fee, including correspondence and phone calls.”

http://www.clackamasreview.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=129192587479001100

So how does Peterson come up with that?
She recruits her Metro/TriMet/Bike pals to stack the deck with emails.

http://www.metro-region.org/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=30925
Jonathan Nicholas has been elected chair of the newly-formed Executive Council for Active Transportation.
Metro and the Executive Council, working with local governments, will develop concept plans to allow people to get from one place to another without the need of a motor vehicle.
Nicholas is joined by Clackamas County Commissioner Lynn Peterson , Portland City Commissioner Nick Fish, Dr. Christopher Achterman of Legacy Hospitals, and Randy Miller of the Moore Company, as new members of the Executive Council. Other members include:
Scott Bricker Executive Director Bicycle Transportation Alliance
Jay Graves, CEO The Bike Gallery
Rex Burkholder Councilor Metro Council

Metro’s Jonathan Nicholas, the Bicycle Transportation Alliance & BikePortland.org, nearly all of which are from Portland stuffed the hearing by e-mail.

Their call to action.

http://bikeportland.org/2010/11/26/koch-funded-anti-tax-group-protests-sellwood-bridge-funding-plan-43557

Wednesday’s hearing was the first reading of the proposed ordinance, and it’s slated to come back to the Commission for a potential vote on December 9th. The Bicycle Transportation Alliance is urging their members to speak up in support of the new fee. Email your comments on the issue by December 8th to bcc@co.clackamas.or.us.

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http://www.bta4bikes.org/btablog/2010/11/23/action-alert-for-clackamas-county-support-sellwood-bridge-funding/

Action Alert for Clackamas County: Support Sellwood Bridge Funding
Posted by: Margaux
Nov 23 2010, 9:14 am
The new Sellwood bridge needs money from Clackamas County to fund the county’s 7% share of the $330 million project. This Wednesday, the County Commission will consider a dedicated $5-per-year vehicle registration fee to raise the money for a new bridge.
Do you live in Clackamas County? Tell your County Commissioners why you support the bridge and why they should vote in favor of the vehicle registration fee.
• The bridge must be replaced. The current one is insufficient, it is crumbling, and it cannot accommodate buses.
• You support the current design recommendation for two 6.5’ bike lanes, two 12’ sidewalks and two 12’ vehicle lanes.
• You support the use of vehicle registration fees to improve transportation facilities. We need to pay for the wear and tear our vehicles cause and we need a stable funding source to build this bridge soon. The BTA does not support a registration fee for bikes.
Email your support: bcc@co.clackamas.or.us
Speak up in support: Wednesday November 24th, 10:00 am, Public Services Building, 2051 Kaen Road, Oregon City, OR 97045

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macmccown December 21, 2010 at 9:11AM

richard and smokin … first of all … the bridge repair is not directly tied into the light rail discussion; they are two distinict and seperate projects. your constant assertions to the contrary does not make it any more true. your complaints about the commissioners ignoring the bridge in the past should be addressed to old clackamas county commissioners, like Dan Halladay, who were responsible for doing nothing.
finally, richard your hysteria about the supporters of the bridge supporters communicating and taking action together is rather strange considering your side of the discussion have been meeting regularly in attempting to sabotage and defeat the proposal. i guess what is good for the goose isnt good for the gander in your mind. see you on the streets for the election if one is held.
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richard2 December 21, 2010 at 11:08AM

macmccown,
Are you an uninformed juvenile?
You can’t even read and comprehend the issues and comments.
You’re wrong and disingenuous.
Of course the bridge is directly tied into the light rail discussion.
As has been mentioned over and over again. Sam Adams will be taking $20 million form the bridge funding to use on the Milwaukie Light Rail.
Moreover the behind the scenes scheming to advance light rail and the Portland way has planned to hijack $200 million in Metro flex fund for MLR that could go to the bridge. That same approach has happened over and over again for years. These future flex funds are needed for future infrastructure projects.
So the pattern continues with the current Mult Commissioners and JPACT partners are ignoring infrastructure just as they did the Sellwood bridge for decades.
Not only that other MLR financing pieces will raid schools, public safety and other essential services.

Your crackpot suggestion about “old clackamas county commissioners” is completely irrational.
And Dan Holladay was never a County Commissioner. He was an Oregon City city councilor.
You can’t even grasp who has been “responsible for doing nothing” about the Sellwood bridge for so many years? FAIL
As for the conniving politicians using Nicholas and Portland bike groups to rig phony Clackamas County support for the new fee, that’s exactly what it is. And it’s unethical. Something these politicians no nothing about.
As for my “side of the discussion” it’s been county wide grass roots with many groups and individuals, along with a poll showing overwhelming opposition to the agenda.
Your side can’t stand being rejected by the populous so you conspire to avoid public votes.
It was 185 in one hearing and 175 in another who actually showed up to oppose what the County is imposing.
The fee will go to the ballot and be defeated by a wider margin than the recent TriMet levy 60%-40% loss in Clack Co.
The Commissioners and you et al can’t even have a normal discussion on what the exact problems are.
Instead you try and sabotage and defeat the opposition by distorting the objections and smearing the messengers.
Your losing message on the streets will be no more than it is here. Dishonest and laughable.
From Mollala to Lake Oswego to Canby to Boring, Oregon City, Damascus and Wilsonville the voters
will reject Portland’s Peterson led assault on their county.
It’s not just the voters either. There is also widespread opposition to Peterson throughout the County agencies.
Never mind her unethical attempt to take control of the elections office and to silence the Sheriff and Fire Chief from speaking out about crime and her Urban Renewal schemes. The rank and file throughout the county bureaus have big problems with the Board of Commissioners.
The Peace officers assoc and fire fighters unions supporting conservative Paul Savas’ election to the board is another huge indicator. Many other loses for the agenda folks county wide make the trend clear and unavoidable.
But Peterson and the sitting commissioners are tone deaf and I suspect the unethical stunts will continue leading to eventual but inevitable successful recall efforts.

Now do you have anything at all that addresses reality?

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OregonShout December 23, 2010 at 8:17AM

I think that about sums it up Richard>LOLOLOL

richard2 December 21, 2010 at 1:08PM

Oh stop with the strawmen.
No one is arguing the bridge doesn’t get used by everyone in one way or the other.
“If we decide infrastructure costs selfishly”
That is exactly why the Sellwood bridge is in the condition it is and why similar neglect can be found underway region wide.
Because misguided and dishonest politicians have been selfishly and zealously deciding to push a reckless agenda that misappropriates countless millions from legitimate needs and priorities.
These commenting activists who can’t grasp the lengthy pattern of reckless spending that leads up to a
Sellwood bridge being so neglected that buses and trucks can’t use it are hopeless.
The urgent need isn’t new. It should have gotten the attention of the politicians every time they agreed to spend regional funding on light rail. This past summer they didn’t even discuss the “urgent need” Selwood bridge as they voted to divert millions more from regional flex funds into Milwaukei Light Rail.
Not a word.
Not a word of concern is what happens over and over again as countless millions are misspent.
Right now the entire funding for the Sellwood bridge is available yet staged for lower prioity projects.
The voting down of the Clackamas County share will not halt the Sellwood Bridge replacement.
If the bridge goes down before the new one gets built it’s Portland/.Mult Co & your fault for electing and re-electing the politicians who neglected it for decades.
If you’re worried about it falling down why aren’t you demanding they fund it first and start the project immediatley?

richard2 December 21, 2010 at 9:50PM


qashqai
You’re not addressing the 10 main reasons for the fee opposition.
I’m glad you agree that PDX city hall has wasted huge sums on frivolous, agenda-driven projects. But you seem to be under the impression that was then. It continues today with all the region’s partners and it’s never been worse.
The $1.6 Billion Milwaukie Light Rail is the ultimate misappropriation. At least half of which will be recklessly taken from essential services and other long neglected infrastructure needs with the identical disregard as the decades of Sellwood bridge neglect.
You cannot demand they fund it first then simply give them a pass by hoping the “Next election provides a clean sweep” That is precisely the status quo. Procrastination.
Instead of complaining about Clackamas County residents, their Multnomah County & other critics should be joining their outrage and stop this madness now. It wouldn’t take that much more if they would help.
But in reality many of these critics are as reckless and disregarding as the politicians. They want the fantasy of more light rail and the Metro plans at any and all costs.
None of them address the real problems either. Even when they are listed and numbered.
There is a reason people do not respond to things. They want to respond to things they find easier to attack.
Like, “those selfish people are whining about $5”.
Or try this one. Not one of the critics at any level has responded to Mayor Adams’ plans to take $20 million from the Sellwood bridge for MLR.
Chair Peterson and the Clackamas County Commissioners could care less as well. But it is they who are the irresponsible ones in Clack Co.
They have agreed to divert the county’s share of $200 million in regional flex funds away from their own countywide infrastructure for MLR. Again more neglect for frivolous boondoggles. Peterson, on JPACT, was one of the loudest voices pushing for the Metro Flex funds to be taken.
So it is worse than “straw man” to then label Clack Co residents as “just head-in-sand selfish”. It isn’t they who have their heads in the sand.
Voting down Clack. Co fee and $22 million share will not stop the bridge replacement at all. Commissioner Bernard admitted that at one of the fee hearings. The idea that project hinges on the fee and clack share is total BS.

The only reason there are these new fees for the bridge is to sustain the practice of misappropriating other millions.

If the partners refuse to re-allocate available funds it is their fault for any delays. This idea that the funding is fragile is their making. The too close for comfort is their making.
No one needed reminding the bridge is “very close to the Clack Co line”. That’s one of the tired straw men used to avoiding the real problems.
The 10 main ones I already posted.
And you don’t outweigh them with meaningless rhetoric about “Multi-source funding is a stop-gap” until we can move the bridge to Metro or the State”.
I doubt you can you even explain what that lipstick on a pig means?:)
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petrosian December 21, 2010 at 9:56PM

OK Richard 2, not too interested in how we got here at this point, more interested in the here and now. I’m in for the $5 a year. Are you?
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richard2 December 22, 2010 at 8:58AM

petrosian
Can’t read?
The here and now means your $5 will go to Milwaukie Light Rail. Along with your property taxes and gas taxes that you think are going to higher priorities.
This bridge funding scheme is a cover up of the raiding of millions that should go to the bridge.
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nankoweap December 23, 2010 at 12:22PM

When the big earthquake hits, this bridge may be the only one standing, which means it may be the only way for emergency service providers to get across the river. I’ll give up a happy meal a year for that. The vehicle reg fee is dedicated to the bridge.
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richard2 December 23, 2010 at 12:54PM

nankoweap
If you demonstrated anyting like you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn’t appear to be simply helping the deceit.
Everyone knows the new Sellwood bridge would have to be built to today’s seizmic standards.
However under the current campaign of public deceit it is far more than a happy meal at stake here.
The rampant missspending of billions and the push for more is what has created this bridge funding scheme and the aged condition of the current bridge.
You hair brained advocacy to help the con job amounts to no more than the same diverting deceit by the commissioners.
For the 100th time commissioners have already bragged about the “fee” kept and raised to fund more of their Portland agenda.
Telling people it is limited to $5 and solely for the bridge is blatant dishonesty and typical of how nearly all
of the agenda Peterson pushes is advanced. She long ago adopted unethical manipulation as an acceptable method of operation.


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