tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post4471525449517650756..comments2008-03-27T20:12:27.835-07:00Victoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-35036824489462952902008-03-27T20:12:00.000-07:002008-03-27T20:12:00.000-07:00

Actually the answer was in the article, itself. If you would have even bothered to read it.To help your disposition, I thought I'd leave you with some reading material..................................................................Acceleration of global warmingdue to carbon-cycle feedbacksin a coupled climatemodelPeter M. Cox*, Richard A. Betts*, Chris D. Jones*, Steven A. Spall*& Ian J.

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-83414448405843111072008-03-26T17:50:00.000-07:002008-03-26T17:50:00.000-07:00

I hope you realize that you're not "iknowhowtospell", jonny. I'll wait for iknowhowtospell to answer since you seemed unable to.When I'm defeated, I'll accept it. But someone declaring that I'm defeated because, in their opinion, they've won doesn't constitute defeat.

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-13866075014848340872008-03-26T16:11:00.000-07:002008-03-26T16:11:00.000-07:00

The debate about weather global warming was occuring ended a long time ago. I'm sorry you weren't on that train but that's your problem.Its really not about who speaks last. The content speaks for itself. You can not defend your position. You said you, would come back when you found some "firepower". And I even gave you many chances to do so. Time to accept your defeat keith. Or chortle on like

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-21102787689220233662008-03-26T16:07:00.000-07:002008-03-26T16:07:00.000-07:00

Keith, your embarrasing upirself. The answer is because its an ice shelf about seven times the size of Manhattan and its collapse puts an even greater portion of glacial ice at risk. "While icebergs naturally break away from the mainland, collapses like this are unusual but are happening more frequently in recent decades...Scientists say it's a sign of worsening global warming. Such occurrences

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-30098974204564082362008-03-26T09:22:00.000-07:002008-03-26T09:22:00.000-07:00

You got "0wned", jonny. Better luck next time. See? I can say it too!

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1771022767007327012008-03-26T00:41:00.000-07:002008-03-26T00:41:00.000-07:00

You got "Owned", Keith. Better luck next time.

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-37982719611605889602008-03-25T20:16:00.000-07:002008-03-25T20:16:00.000-07:00

Hey, don't diss duct tape! You can fix just about everything with it! Even ice shelves... you just need a few hundred miles of it. ;) I'm curious, though... how is what happened to the ice shelf distinct from the shearing that is typical of glaciers?By the by, iknowhowtospell... sorry I occassionally use your name as a bludgeon. But who else would I use as a more sober debater from the other side

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-75292085957758633002008-03-25T18:22:00.000-07:002008-03-25T18:22:00.000-07:00

Maybe duct tape would help?

iknowhowtospellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13587397426364597711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-26779510529111447902008-03-25T16:17:00.000-07:002008-03-25T16:17:00.000-07:00

And you had to be arm-twisted to come clean. If you were iknowhowtospell and I regarded you as an honest debater, I'd crank out the sources. But I don't so I won't.See, I knew that if I let you keep talking, you'd expose ignorance. The conception that lemmings follow each other off cliffs in a mass suicide is a popular myth. (http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp) Try a more intelligent

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-21013500336707862902008-03-25T13:22:00.000-07:002008-03-25T13:22:00.000-07:00

Sorry keith you lost the argument. You haven't given one iota of evidence to support your position.And when cornered with facts, as you were with the oil question, you just dodge the question. I'm calling you on it. LEMMING, LOL!!Right now I am imagining you blindly jumping off a cliff as you follow your heroes Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly.Get a life.

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-43673017007044154902008-03-24T22:29:00.000-07:002008-03-24T22:29:00.000-07:00

jonny, you can't incite me to treat you as an honest debater by making baseless accusations. You still haven't retracted the Holocaust denier comparison.And just what is a lemming, jonny? I really want to hear you explain it because I might be able to have a laugh at your expense.

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-57302856991594190802008-03-24T19:31:00.000-07:002008-03-24T19:31:00.000-07:00

The problem with you is you are arrogant. Even when you are presented with the facts, you still grasp on to your baseless point of view. You can't even defend your position, as seen here.You just believe your thing because somebody told you it once, and thats what you want to believe. Your a lemming.

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-69552052369580604822008-03-23T22:23:00.000-07:002008-03-23T22:23:00.000-07:00

Keep believing that, jonny. So does your invisible pink unicorn like Gala or Granny Smith apples? I wouldn't want to offend her delicate tastes.Ah, but the difference between me and Klatu is that I recognize when I'm talking to someone who can't be reasoned with and operates from a position of profond intellectual dishonesty; he doesn't even know what those words mean.

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-53123180436516336122008-03-23T19:30:00.000-07:002008-03-23T19:30:00.000-07:00

Are you kidding?Nice try getting around it but i've had you all along on this. I ve been waiting and waiting for you to defend your position. And guess what? You haven't done it. The only thing you came up with was your volcano theory, which I've already proven wrong (and sourced it from a reliable a source). Then you try to make a weak claim that global warming is caused by solar effects and not

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-29340064234111775772008-03-23T09:39:00.000-07:002008-03-23T09:39:00.000-07:00

STUMPED? By you? Oh, don't make me laugh. If you spend days on end stubbornly refusing to cite any sources for your claims, you've got alot of chutzpuh pretending that the burden of proof was on me all along. Go enjoy your little fantasy world, jonny... if it was an honest debater like iknowhowtospell, it'd be worth the time and effort to assemble all my citations but you can't even be honest

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-16953600479954686622008-03-23T04:13:00.000-07:002008-03-23T04:13:00.000-07:00

Keith, go back and read the links. Even when Solar effects are factored in, It turns out that anthropogenic forcing is causing most of the warming. By the way Keith I have been twisting your arms for days to give me an answer. The problem for you is that you are stumped. Its called losing the argument, Kieth

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-32842267486097840062008-03-22T18:34:00.000-07:002008-03-22T18:34:00.000-07:00

Very good, jonny! After having your arm twisted repeatedly, you're willing to prove that you're not blowing hot air. Would that I didn't have to keep demanding it before you provided it...The evidence is clear that anthropogentic CO2 is having some effect on the environment. But as a gent pointed out in the opinion section of today's Oregonian, the two factors of solar radiance and natural CO2

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-50016925710873707722008-03-22T16:26:00.000-07:002008-03-22T16:26:00.000-07:00

I will go ahead and source them:CO2 causing a mean increase in global temperature:A New perspective on Recent Global Warming. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society p.1019http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0477/74/6/pdf/i1520-0477-74-6-1007.pdf Dr. Vic Camp. Geological SciencesSan Diego State University. Geological SciencesSan Diego State Universityemail: vcamp@geology.sdsu.eduphone

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-12652113559686142032008-03-22T16:06:00.000-07:002008-03-22T16:06:00.000-07:00

You have my conditions for an answer, stated at least 3-4 times, jonny. When those conditions are met, you get your answer. Until then, however, I'm not going to use up part of my alotted 24 hours of the day meticulously citing sources for someone who refuses to do the same.

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-40581169259480976152008-03-22T15:06:00.000-07:002008-03-22T15:06:00.000-07:00

I'm still waiting for your answer?Whats wrong? Stumped aren'tcha.

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-49497468870705172842008-03-22T07:38:00.000-07:002008-03-22T07:38:00.000-07:00

I'm asking you to source things like the claim about CO2 causing a mean increase in global temperature. I'm asking you to source things like the volcano thing (pointing to a blog where something is mentioned and letting someone wander around until they find the scientific source 2 websites away doesn't count as "sourcing"). I'm asking you to source things like your claim that anthropogenic causes

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-57777602371462848842008-03-22T03:26:00.000-07:002008-03-22T03:26:00.000-07:00

So I read your final comment on "the final fool" blog.I'll respond here: This isn't quantum physics! Everything I have said on the blog is basic information. Your asking me to source things like the explanation of the greenhouse effect! This is most all stuff even "your" scientists agree with. I don't think even they take the volcano theory seriously. I really do think Sean Hannity came up with

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-86435044274335994902008-03-21T20:35:00.000-07:002008-03-21T20:35:00.000-07:00

If you recall, I already explained that I'm not going to give you the time of day until you retract the comparison of me to a Holocaust denier because I don't feel like accepting your claims without citation. Incidentally, the link in question isn't dead. But anyhow, since you keep changing your argument, I'm also planning to wait until you find one that you're willing to stick with.

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-67845011209989825882008-03-21T19:49:00.000-07:002008-03-21T19:49:00.000-07:00

Keith, I would have viewed your link but its a dead link.You are right I didn't check to see which foreign country imports the most to the United States. Why? Because it doesn't matter in regard to the question I asked you. The one you refuse to answer. But to make you happy I found some recent stats. Tell me if they are not similar to the ones you found. http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international

jonnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11492823336274613482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-32723441510917816842008-03-21T15:51:00.000-07:002008-03-21T15:51:00.000-07:00

Nice trick, jonny. I bash you over the head with proof that you're ignorant and you quickly change the subject to a strawman. As I clearly proved with the Department of Energy's report on how much oil we import from the Middle East as opposed to other places, we are NOT dependent on Middle East oil. Because you are clearly too blind to glean facts from a source, I'll throw a couple numbers at you

Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.com