tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post2151060669898979306..comments2008-04-24T22:49:11.578-07:00Comments on VICTORIA TAFT: Obama on Guns: Doesn't Like ThemVictoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-50102786494181502842008-04-24T22:49:00.000-07:002008-04-24T22:49:00.000-07:00The analogy works because in both cases, the gover...The analogy works because in both cases, the government is reducing the number of people who can and will speak up. In the first instance, by locking them away. In the second instance, by making it more trouble than it's worth to protest.I'm sure they'd love to... it'd mean they have USSR-level control over us all and that'd make the government overjoyed.Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-48410734335601833272008-04-24T18:58:00.000-07:002008-04-24T18:58:00.000-07:00Keith, There is a big difference between the analo...Keith, There is a big difference between the analogy you use, and Gun Licensing/Registration.In your analogy they are taking people away, so there is no one left to stand up.I might be in favor of gun licensing and registration, but I am still here, to join in any fight against gun confiscation.I wonder if they are going to come and confiscate people's vehicles?Eileenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02090970905053451038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-43972305179876532632008-04-24T17:39:00.000-07:002008-04-24T17:39:00.000-07:00I used to strongly support the licensing and waiti...I used to strongly support the licensing and waiting period for gun buyers/owners. I certainly support the idea of gun owners receiving training on handling, firing, cleaning, storing, etc. However, given the Big Brother state we're now living in, if I were to decide to purchase a weapon, I wouldn't want the government knowing this. If I could trust this information would never be used against meNina. Or is it Norman?http://www.blogger.com/profile/03156718509284222442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-56614246210506638652008-04-23T12:55:00.000-07:002008-04-23T12:55:00.000-07:00It's not a slippery slope unless its pure theory. ...It's not a slippery slope unless its pure theory. It is provably true that controls on guns pile up until guns are confiscated. So, sorry, not a slipperly slope.I see. The license would be useless. The fellow who shot up a Jewish community center some years back was mentally disturbed but, as a mechanical engineer, would have been able to acquire the gun license you're pushing in his sleep. Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-2210927817644752062008-04-23T12:45:00.000-07:002008-04-23T12:45:00.000-07:00Because, Klatu, there's no need to.Because, Klatu, there's no need to.Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-23827304108667167402008-04-23T10:42:00.000-07:002008-04-23T10:42:00.000-07:00Eileen.. Advanced controls and registration... yep...Eileen.. Advanced controls and registration... yep.. lets get that list together so we can eventually take those weapons away from people.. thats the ulitmate goal of many "progressives" in this country... because those weapons may be used in a revolt.Every point you made about a person using a gun that is licensed to you is actually covered in existing laws.. even if the weapon is licensed to kitanishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10657260938925328929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-44835720775113851872008-04-22T15:36:00.000-07:002008-04-22T15:36:00.000-07:00Yes Kieth I can, but I don't expect you to agree, ...Yes Kieth I can, but I don't expect you to agree, as you have been listening to and agreeing with the slippery slope of control now, confiscation later, for way too long.I am in favor of requiring a license to own a weapon, that requires knowledge (similar to what is now required to operate a motor vehicle, including the learning permit phase).That along with a law that would require reasonable Eileenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02090970905053451038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-69910271190570925172008-04-22T15:12:00.000-07:002008-04-22T15:12:00.000-07:00Eileen, the ultimate end of all the things you ter...Eileen, the ultimate end of all the things you term to be "controls" are confiscation. Beyond restricting genuine assault weapons and putting some system in place to prevent criminals from getting their hands on guns, there are no legitimate controls. A waiting period? Useless... someone who intends to cause harm won't be any less determined 24 hours later. Microstamping ammo? Useless... it can Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-22222970509740389862008-04-22T15:10:00.000-07:002008-04-22T15:10:00.000-07:00Keithy: Why don't you address what Klatu said?Keithy: Why don't you address what Klatu said?Klatuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03632035951246465376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-89484596749837246882008-04-22T15:00:00.000-07:002008-04-22T15:00:00.000-07:00Not meaning to be rude or anything, iknowhowtospel...Not meaning to be rude or anything, iknowhowtospell, but fastidious dissection of grammer doesn't constitute an argument against what the person is saying in the midst of that horrific grammar. Perhaps address what Klatu said?Keith Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02424025513314938150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-2592276138734505732008-04-22T12:55:00.000-07:002008-04-22T12:55:00.000-07:00Did these advocates of the "opposite" policy advoc...Did these advocates of the "opposite" policy advocate taking away people's guns?Or perhaps they advocated controls such as licensing and registration?Eileenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02090970905053451038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-31235794607302292232008-04-22T11:22:00.000-07:002008-04-22T11:22:00.000-07:00And what then is left for an American to cleave to...And what then is left for an American to cleave to, if it's somehow wrong to cleave to God, protect yourself with your constitutionally protected gun, and stand up for the rule of law? I'll tell you what the left wants you to cleave to: government.Victoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-7333264685524387932008-04-22T07:40:00.000-07:002008-04-22T07:40:00.000-07:00realLy / grammArrealLy / grammAriknowhowtospellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13587397426364597711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-30530022811802779222008-04-22T07:16:00.000-07:002008-04-22T07:16:00.000-07:00IknowMost of us on this sight do not want or realy...IknowMost of us on this sight do not want or realy care about your grammer correction !tnrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14147709589164014831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-35721361857135787312008-04-21T22:37:00.000-07:002008-04-21T22:37:00.000-07:00Seriously, e-mail me your (showing possession) add...Seriously, e-mail me your (showing possession) address. I'll send you a dictionary, free of charge."It's" (it has) been a few years. ("Its" shows possession.)"girls'" website (possessive of a plural)Anyone "know" about this? (Dude, that's just basic. Come on, now.)iknowhowtospellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13587397426364597711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-41096698949649388852008-04-21T22:13:00.000-07:002008-04-21T22:13:00.000-07:00I guess Billery and Hussein Obamaare forcing me to...I guess Billery and Hussein Obamaare forcing me to get in touch withThe Second Amendment Sisters again.Its been a few years.PS: I notice on the girls websitethere's a link to the Oregon Firearms federationand HR-2640. Anyone no about this?Klatuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03632035951246465376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-21225016035623391252008-04-21T16:28:00.000-07:002008-04-21T16:28:00.000-07:00From the Columbian's message board..."Religious su...From the Columbian's message board..."Religious suffering is the expression of real suffering and at the same time the protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, as it is the spirit of a spiritless conditions. It is the opium of the people.""It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toTerryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03276654974034843682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-70452507332668778052008-04-21T15:51:00.000-07:002008-04-21T15:51:00.000-07:00I am sure that they won't stop with guns , there i...I am sure that they won't stop with guns , there is a lot more at stake than that !tnrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14147709589164014831noreply@blogger.com