tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post115618796599562097..comments2008-07-16T15:30:59.409-07:00Victoria Taft, 5pm-8pm KPAM 860noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1157442692017374802006-09-05T00:51:00.000-07:002006-09-05T00:51:00.000-07:002006-09-05T00:51:00.000-07:00

Last week, the New York Times and CBS News conducted a poll. Now, I am certain that there are those who will dismiss all polls as inherently inaccurate, and others who will dismiss this particular poll because they dismiss both the newspaper and the television network. Others will insist that the figures have been deliberately skewed because these sources have such a ruthless political agenda

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1157434454947249822006-09-04T22:34:00.000-07:002006-09-04T22:34:00.000-07:002006-09-04T22:34:00.000-07:00

David, you know yourself had Bush claimed finding those 500 and something WMDs, the left would have had a heyday over it. We all admit they weren't the ones virtually the entire world said were there. Still, they were there and were supposed to have been destroyed.Even here we have seen the left claim they never existed, they were all destroyed and on to we knew about them all the time. We have

Lewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1157155423384699692006-09-01T17:03:00.000-07:002006-09-01T17:03:00.000-07:002006-09-01T17:03:00.000-07:00

david,It is obvious the President has moved on. The reason for the war became a mute point 5 seconds after the war started. As for calling the President a liar he did not lie. He presented the case for war as it was given to him by his advisors and the intelligence community. As it turned out the information was faulty however, that does not make the president a liar.On the other hand the

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1157126842922792162006-09-01T09:07:00.000-07:002006-09-01T09:07:00.000-07:002006-09-01T09:07:00.000-07:00

Lew:Let me give you a repeat: in a recent press conference, President Bush acknowledge that the Americans found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. That's not me making the statement. It's not John Kerry, John Murtha, or any other porominent democrat making the statement. It is the inimitable George Dubya Bush, acknowledging that the American forces found no weapons of mass destruction in

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156564930443314482006-08-25T21:02:00.000-07:002006-08-25T21:02:00.000-07:002006-08-25T21:02:00.000-07:00

Okay fizzi, you want more links? Reading the quoted words of a member of the commission isn't good enough?The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda TiesIraq & Al QaedaClinton first linked al Qaeda to SaddamNo Question About ItUN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and afterHow about a realistic alternative to redeploying?How about WIN? "Redeploying" was tried before, at the behest of the

Lewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156564639451651052006-08-25T20:57:00.000-07:002006-08-25T20:57:00.000-07:002006-08-25T20:57:00.000-07:00

There are those of us who see the war in Iraq as distinct from the fight against terrorism and believe that Bush has focused too much on Iraq to the exclusion of other threats. The efforts to provide a link between the war in Iraq and the broader anti-terror effort are unpersuasive.Like I have said before, hatred is an all consuming thing. You really should be complaining about when we invaded

Lewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156550849910972262006-08-25T17:07:00.000-07:002006-08-25T17:07:00.000-07:002006-08-25T17:07:00.000-07:00

However, even the administration does not claim these as WMDs, only the rightwing excusenicks.

Mongo7http://www.blogger.com/profile/00724713921067422238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156544613758863792006-08-25T15:23:00.000-07:002006-08-25T15:23:00.000-07:002006-08-25T15:23:00.000-07:00

mongo7,Lets not go there because the statements you have referred to can be proven. No I am not going to drag out the evidence. You'll have to pay closer attention and access other sources of information that may hurt your eyes.I do not require a ton of evidence to appriciate the necessity of ousting Saddam and his sons.I will say this Saddam was supposed to have zero (0) WMDs period, they have

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156540860733770142006-08-25T14:21:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:21:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:21:00.000-07:00

fizzi,The fact about you is a done deal. You have provided all the proof required.The proof of Iraq and Al Qaeda ties has already been proved by others that have access to the actual documents.You are in denial, and Lew has been with my assistance trying to help you. However, it appears that residential treatment is called for in your case and hopefully your family will intervene and help you.

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156540622542484192006-08-25T14:17:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:17:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:17:00.000-07:00

Come on Fizziwigg, give the guy a break. What are you going to do next, ask Kodiak to prove the existence of WMDs or that Iraq was reconstituting it atomic program? Show som mercy.

Mongo7http://www.blogger.com/profile/00724713921067422238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156540011630465502006-08-25T14:06:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:06:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:06:00.000-07:00

A "fact" that you are unable to prove.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156539755765071422006-08-25T14:02:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:02:00.000-07:002006-08-25T14:02:00.000-07:00

fizzi,A fact that exists only in your mind.Fact: There is no amount of proof that you'd accept to change it.Your failure to accept references where the proof exists demonstrates this fact about you.Thus the fact that Saddam had ties to Al Qaeda before the war stands.

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156539083120850902006-08-25T13:51:00.000-07:002006-08-25T13:51:00.000-07:002006-08-25T13:51:00.000-07:00

Therefore, the fact that there was no collaboration between Saddam and Al Qaeda stands.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156537629925045052006-08-25T13:27:00.000-07:002006-08-25T13:27:00.000-07:002006-08-25T13:27:00.000-07:00

fizzi,Actually I have nothing to prove I am not living in a bubble like you. I have done the research as time progressed and thus have seen enough proof. I am not your information collection agency either, that is your responsibility. I can not help it if you have been wearing blinders for the past few months.Secondly I do not recognize your divinity on this or any other matter.Bottom line is

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156535221149861532006-08-25T12:47:00.000-07:002006-08-25T12:47:00.000-07:002006-08-25T12:47:00.000-07:00

Sorry, I am not going to do your work for you. You have the burden of proof.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156533889122497772006-08-25T12:24:00.000-07:002006-08-25T12:24:00.000-07:002006-08-25T12:24:00.000-07:00

fizzi,Your laziness knows no bounds. I suggest you look up articles by Stephen Hayes, you can find him at The Weekly Standard. I am not going to do your work for you. I have already read up on this issue.You were not lied to. Bush may have been given bad information and he ran with it. That does not mean he lied to you. He would have to known the information was bad and used anyway. There

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156528453467334642006-08-25T10:54:00.000-07:002006-08-25T10:54:00.000-07:002006-08-25T10:54:00.000-07:00

Fizziwigg, Kodiak, et al. We are long past arguing about the justification for the Iraq War. Reasonable minds can differ. However, what cannot be justified is the incompetent prosecution of the war for which we are paying such a dear price. Fiasco is too kind of a word

Mongo7http://www.blogger.com/profile/00724713921067422238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156526932232648632006-08-25T10:28:00.000-07:002006-08-25T10:28:00.000-07:002006-08-25T10:28:00.000-07:00

THe fact remains that you have not produced any evidence, only vague references. I supported going to war against Afghanistan. I was lied to about going to war with Iraq. The lies continue. I am certain that Lew can come through with some slam dunk evidence.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156526456733142072006-08-25T10:20:00.000-07:002006-08-25T10:20:00.000-07:002006-08-25T10:20:00.000-07:00

fizzi,I have not made your point, I was being sarcastic in making my point. The point is 2 fold 1. There was offical contacts between as detailed in the commissions report. You say this is not proof, I disagree. The terrorist attitude is the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Osama and Saddam my not like each other and Osama would turn against Saddam after he used him and visa versa. The

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156523568123611552006-08-25T09:32:00.000-07:002006-08-25T09:32:00.000-07:002006-08-25T09:32:00.000-07:00

You have made my point Kodiak. You have no evidence of collaboration between Saddam and Al Qaeda.. Let's see if Lew has any.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156522485515652282006-08-25T09:14:00.000-07:002006-08-25T09:14:00.000-07:002006-08-25T09:14:00.000-07:00

fizzi,If I could produce meeting minutes and you would still blow it off. As Lew said you have not completely read the 9/11 commission final report. The fact is Saddam supported terrorism there were many examples. I am not going to detail them for you, that would be a waste of my time.If you go back in history look up the USS Stark. This alone was an act of war that was not responded to by a

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156517793043834042006-08-25T07:56:00.000-07:002006-08-25T07:56:00.000-07:002006-08-25T07:56:00.000-07:00

Talk about spin. You and Kodiak would be far more convincing if you could produce evidence of collatoration between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Contacts which Saddam rebuffed are not sufficient. The burden is on you. You forget that Osama considered Saddam an infidel. Evidence please.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156517755963114242006-08-25T07:55:00.000-07:002006-08-25T07:55:00.000-07:002006-08-25T07:55:00.000-07:00

Talk about spin. You and Kodiak would be far more convincing if you could produce evidence of collatoration between Saddam and Al Qaeda. Contacts which Saddam rebuffed are not sufficient. The burden is on you. You forget that Osama considered Saddam an infidel. Evidence please.

Fizziwigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02533869888753128244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156481423217335982006-08-24T21:50:00.000-07:002006-08-24T21:50:00.000-07:002006-08-24T21:50:00.000-07:00

The Sept. 11 Commission reported that it found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda.fizzi, you really should read the whole thing and not just the Liberal talking points portion.Jim Thompson former governor of Illinois and member of the 9-11 Commission: When asked by Soledad O’Brien on CNNs Good Morning America on 18 June 2004: "So we hear from both President Bush and Dick

Lewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1156465025756998272006-08-24T17:17:00.000-07:002006-08-24T17:17:00.000-07:002006-08-24T17:17:00.000-07:00

fizzi,Go to Townhall.com look up Hugh Hewitt's interview with the Central Commands Commanding General.Easy look at the situation as a whole. MSM will have you believe that all of Iraq is experiencing security issues. The problem is in and around Bagdad, where we are currently concentrating more troops and efforts to secure the region.Bush has delegated the plan to the Generals and Rumsfeld.

Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.com