tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post114910905756612331..comments2008-07-16T15:30:59.428-07:00Victoria Taft, 5pm-8pm KPAM 860noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149840851726796642006-06-09T01:14:00.000-07:002006-06-09T01:14:00.000-07:002006-06-09T01:14:00.000-07:00

suomynona:I think you are right: Saxton was labelled the moderate during the primary race, as compared to Atkinson and Mannix, the "red meat" Republicans. Certainly given a choice between supporting Saxton and supporting Kulongoski, these people will support Saxton, but there are now two other alternatives with which Saxton must concern himself: Mary Starrett and political apathy. Further,

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149759356093539432006-06-08T02:35:00.000-07:002006-06-08T02:35:00.000-07:002006-06-08T02:35:00.000-07:00

Is everything going ok in here? Just wondering if everyone is being civil...

Victoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149629755010376472006-06-06T14:35:00.000-07:002006-06-06T14:35:00.000-07:002006-06-06T14:35:00.000-07:00

klatu, sorry to see you are giving up so quick after announcing you were coming after me with "both barrels blazing." Tough always firing blanks?In all seriousness, stick around. You provide some great entertainment.wsd,...I think I should vote against the awful candidate, in favor of the more tolerable candidate who has a chance of winning.I think that says it well for most of the people most

Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149615833855988272006-06-06T10:43:00.000-07:002006-06-06T10:43:00.000-07:002006-06-06T10:43:00.000-07:00

klatu:I have made clear that I do not work in the public sector, so regardless of who is elected in November, I will unaffected. Even if I were a public employee, given that I write my comments on my own time, do you think even Mary Starrett, were she elected, would try to fire me for what I have written. (I doubt it.) So unless you are somehow arranging a January coup in which you will

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149605502956657792006-06-06T07:51:00.000-07:002006-06-06T07:51:00.000-07:002006-06-06T07:51:00.000-07:00

HEYYYYYYY westsidegarbage and backwardscommunist. THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M RESPONDING TO YOU BLOGG PARSITES. GO THE _ _ _ _ _ _ - - _ _ _. AWAY. BUH BYE BUH BYE.GO OVER TO BLUE COMMUNIST OREGON. PORTLAND.INDYMEDIA.ORG. WWW.DNC.ORG WWW.ILOVECOMMUNISM .COMMMMMMMMMMIE AND STAY THEY'RE THERE THEIR YOU PARSITES.YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME HERE AND I HOPE OTHERS WILL IGNORE YOU ALSO IN THE NEAR

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klatu:You would be so much more interesting if you attempted to enter into the substance of the discussion instead of merely making these outbursts of yours, which do little to prove the merit of anything you have to say. suomynona:By way of reply, let me begin with this, I find that in many elections, I am left with no one to vote "for." I vote against a more repugnant alternative. I do not

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149569058602243192006-06-05T21:44:00.000-07:002006-06-05T21:44:00.000-07:002006-06-05T21:44:00.000-07:00

crackpot,"Face it, most americans oppose same-sex marriage. The majority of those who favor it are entrenched with the democrats."I find it fascinating that for the most part this is true, especially since letting the federal government settle something that really should be left to the states to decide seems to go against the very core of what a "Republican" is. I would argue what passes as the

Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149564953968263412006-06-05T20:35:00.000-07:002006-06-05T20:35:00.000-07:002006-06-05T20:35:00.000-07:00

David;I can't see the gay marriage issue hurting Saxton much, unless he mishandles it. Face it, most americans oppose same-sex marriage. The majority of those who favor it are entrenched with the democrats.

Crackpothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00478720543433605507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149557162472108012006-06-05T18:26:00.000-07:002006-06-05T18:26:00.000-07:002006-06-05T18:26:00.000-07:00

Backwards_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _: The smartest thing a person could do is smile everytime you or Leftists like yourself post. Ps You have a Blogg paid for by the Taxpayer AAAAAAAA

Klatuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07654526773401904036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149556756353040252006-06-05T18:19:00.000-07:002006-06-05T18:19:00.000-07:002006-06-05T18:19:00.000-07:00

Crackpot:Thank you. I see the election developing in a manner somewhat different than you proedict. I agree with you that the Constitution Party will be insignificant, but I think also that the Pacific Green and other fringe leftist parties will be equally insignificant in the overall picture. I see the key being Saxton's ability to build a coalition of social conservatives, who did not javor

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149526566793095382006-06-05T09:56:00.000-07:002006-06-05T09:56:00.000-07:002006-06-05T09:56:00.000-07:00

David;Good analysis, though I happen to like Saxton's chances at the moment. We'll hear a lot of loud grumbling from the so-called "social conservative" wing of the republican party, but Ron should have most registered republicans behind him. I believe he'll do quite well among independents and will manage to sway a small but significant number of registered democrats. With a weak incumbent

Crackpothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00478720543433605507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149522735190978642006-06-05T08:52:00.000-07:002006-06-05T08:52:00.000-07:002006-06-05T08:52:00.000-07:00

"...you Backwards_ -_ _) - _ _ _ ,& Westside_ _ _ _ _ _ and other Taxsucking Parsites in the American Communist Party known as the Deathocrat Party that unfortunately have access to this website...and Taxsuckers like you Backwards -and Westside___ _ _ _ _ can find a new job."klatu, if you wish to continue making personal attacks, then I invite you to come over to my blog and do it there (makes a

Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149493743067998592006-06-05T00:49:00.000-07:002006-06-05T00:49:00.000-07:002006-06-05T00:49:00.000-07:00

I'd Vote for Mary Starret and her husband and of course President George W. Bush again before I'd vote for you Backwards_ -_ _) - _ _ _ ,& Westside_ _ _ _ _ _ and other Taxsucking Parsites in the American Communist Party known as the Deathocrat Party that unfortunately have access to this website.Mary Starret means well with Abortion and Life, but I want to winso State Taxes are brought down and

Klatuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07654526773401904036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149483053840534952006-06-04T21:50:00.000-07:002006-06-04T21:50:00.000-07:002006-06-04T21:50:00.000-07:00

Dear Crackpot:If Saxton is to win, he will have to do a great deal in the coming election cycle. I think the Republican side of the gubernatorial campaign generated more excitement that the Democratic side did in the primary, and yet more Democrats turned out to vote (some 305,000 versus 289,000 for the Democrats). Further, Kulongoski polled more votes than Saxton, 166,000 versus 121,000.

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149456034129557182006-06-04T14:20:00.000-07:002006-06-04T14:20:00.000-07:002006-06-04T14:20:00.000-07:00

Gullyborg,Your Reagan/Carter analogy is flawed. The majority of american voters elected Reagan in 1980 because he was not Jimmy Carter. Given the general mood at the time, most any republican nominee could have pulled it off. People were hungry for change (rightfully so) and Reagan was the right candidate at the right time.I know many Oregonians are hungry for change and believe Ron Saxton is our

Crackpothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00478720543433605507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149445518349156752006-06-04T11:25:00.000-07:002006-06-04T11:25:00.000-07:002006-06-04T11:25:00.000-07:00

One issue voters just kill me.Both Parties have them.On that thought, now knowing his stance on illegal immigration, if GW had another crack at the white house would you still vote for him?

Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149427077472210002006-06-04T06:17:00.000-07:002006-06-04T06:17:00.000-07:002006-06-04T06:17:00.000-07:00

One issue voters just kill me.Both Parties have them.

Klatuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07654526773401904036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149267080079511012006-06-02T09:51:00.000-07:002006-06-02T09:51:00.000-07:002006-06-02T09:51:00.000-07:00

Ron Saxton, who has alienated disenfranchised liberals and moderates by pandering to right wing shock jocks and increasingly xenophobic and insane immigration groups. Oh, and he did this while alienating the conservative base with his increasingly shrill and negative campaigning.This is a great observation. I think we are seeing a majority of "Republican" political leaders now having to decide

Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149264981253993822006-06-02T09:16:00.000-07:002006-06-02T09:16:00.000-07:002006-06-02T09:16:00.000-07:00

When Reagan was elected, he displaced a liberal democrat, at a time when liberal democrats controlled both houses of congress and a majority of state houses. The nation was majority democrat, and the conservative won.He did it by appealing to moderates, but not by BEING moderate.We needed to nominate a candidate who could appeal to moderates by demonstrating superior character and integrity,

Gullyborghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09788412269746084533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149231826905035932006-06-02T00:03:00.000-07:002006-06-02T00:03:00.000-07:002006-06-02T00:03:00.000-07:00

If Ron Saxton dropped out of the race, leaving a contest between Ted Kulongoski and Mary Starrett, Kulongoski would probably be elated. Kulongoski could portray himself as a moderate defending mainstream values against a strident reactionary, and he would probably make deep inroads into traditional Republican bases because many moderate Republicans would be repelled by Mary Starrett's strident

westsidedavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11799712270908208452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149193731736894532006-06-01T13:28:00.000-07:002006-06-01T13:28:00.000-07:002006-06-01T13:28:00.000-07:00

"you've got to have a guy like Saxton to set the table for more conservative candidates in the future."If you are hoping to get the Dem's out of seats and out of control, then how on earth can you not agree with Victoria's statement above?Suddenly because your popular party candidate only meets your expectations half-way, you'd rather not vote at all?I guess if you're not into towing the party

Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149191807407454362006-06-01T12:56:00.000-07:002006-06-01T12:56:00.000-07:002006-06-01T12:56:00.000-07:00

How many Oregon Democrats are willing in 2006 to vote for a conservative? You've got to have the D's on board if Starrett's going to win. You're right about the conservative message, it wins. I haven't seen it win in 2006 Oregon, however.

Victoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149188671739035802006-06-01T12:04:00.000-07:002006-06-01T12:04:00.000-07:002006-06-01T12:04:00.000-07:00

"you've got to have a guy like Saxton to set the table for more conservative candidates in the future."What a laugh! That's like saying that Reagan NEEDED a guy like Ford. No, all Reagan needed was conservatism as an alternative to Jimmy Carter.

Gullyborghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09788412269746084533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149171543871228222006-06-01T07:19:00.000-07:002006-06-01T07:19:00.000-07:002006-06-01T07:19:00.000-07:00

Everything is in place for Kulongoski's re-election.

threlfeldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05300372474351363487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1149149374450872702006-06-01T01:09:00.000-07:002006-06-01T01:09:00.000-07:002006-06-01T01:09:00.000-07:00

Personally, I welcome third parties into the fracas. I'm tired the constant back and forth childish antics of both major parties today who can't resist all the get back child games.What your election will end up like is anybodies guess. But, I see many conservative disillusioned with the current shift left towards the center by Republicans.If ever there was a time for a third party to gain

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