tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post114442127479630558..comments2008-08-30T03:30:17.559-07:00Comments on VICTORIA TAFT: COMPROMISE SENATE ILLEGAL ALIEN AMNESTY SELL OUT F...Victoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144886615767446092006-04-12T17:03:00.000-07:002006-04-12T17:03:00.000-07:002006-04-12T17:03:00.000-07:00Now lets discuss greedy capitalism. Am I to believ...Now lets discuss greedy capitalism. Am I to believe that to make a profit say as small as a dollar would be considered greedy."Greedy" was the key word, kodiak, don't be silly.I agree, business should make a profit, but not to the detriment of their employees or customers. You're free to think that is ok, but I do not.No one in India had to illegally enter the US to "take away" our call center Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144884512986850252006-04-12T16:28:00.000-07:002006-04-12T16:28:00.000-07:002006-04-12T16:28:00.000-07:00Really, someone would place it in the catagory of ...Really, someone would place it in the catagory of trying to stay in business. You failed to consider the consumer effect on the housing industry. The builders have to keep the costs down otherwise risk being unable to sell the home to even make a profit or to break even.Now lets discuss greedy capitalism. Am I to believe that to make a profit say as small as a dollar would be considered greedyKodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144881631977721072006-04-12T15:40:00.000-07:002006-04-12T15:40:00.000-07:002006-04-12T15:40:00.000-07:00Remember the discussion of being illegal vs legal....Remember the discussion of being illegal vs legal.That's correct. But you try to suppose that the sour nature of capitalism is heightened, if not created solely by competition from illegal immigrants - that if all the illegals went away tomorrow, suddenly the middle class would expand by leaps and bounds and everyone would be paying more than minimum wage for any job. Ok, so I embellish, but justKhaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144877697150981842006-04-12T14:34:00.000-07:002006-04-12T14:34:00.000-07:002006-04-12T14:34:00.000-07:00suomynina,You are wrong. Remember the discussion ...suomynina,You are wrong. Remember the discussion of being illegal vs legal.I am not trying to suck you in, I am just trying to find out how you feel about your country.There is no problem with you stating that you disagree and why. This would not be America otherwise. You know all this anyway.As for the arguement isn't that what politians do?The politians point their fingers at the middle Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144875799422780362006-04-12T14:03:00.000-07:002006-04-12T14:03:00.000-07:002006-04-12T14:03:00.000-07:00My assumption is you do not value your citizenship...My assumption is you do not value your citizenship other wise you would have answered the question.You're kidding, right? It wouldn't matter how I answer - because I don't agree with everything you say, to you I wouldn't value my citizenship.As for your argument. It's nothing more than a political tactic when you want something changed to lay blame, point fingers, and single out. You are using Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144873353446878402006-04-12T13:22:00.000-07:002006-04-12T13:22:00.000-07:002006-04-12T13:22:00.000-07:00suomynona,My assumption is you do not value your c...suomynona,My assumption is you do not value your citizenship other wise you would have answered the question.You get the point but not the danger. If your employer can get better production at cheaper cost you are gone and having to find something else to do.I am not talking about teenagers. I am talking about skilled jobs that American citizens are being forced out of. It is a real problem. Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144869328905599262006-04-12T12:15:00.000-07:002006-04-12T12:15:00.000-07:002006-04-12T12:15:00.000-07:00kodiak, the value I place in my job is in no way r...kodiak, the value I place in my job is in no way related to the value I place in my citizenship.I'll argue there is no employment "boogy man" in immigrants, legal or otherwise. What you are talking about is competition. There are plenty of citizen workers out there that would do my job for less than what I make - and my boss could very well hire them - IF they would produce at the same or Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144857252286040302006-04-12T08:54:00.000-07:002006-04-12T08:54:00.000-07:002006-04-12T08:54:00.000-07:00suomynona,What value to you do you place on your c...suomynona,What value to you do you place on your citizenship?What value to you do you place on your job?Do you know that the President preference for a guest worker program is no limits on number of workers and any job above minimum wage would be open for a guest worker. Do you know that there are a lot of poor workers in other countries other than Mexico that would love to come here and work Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144786169762576592006-04-11T13:09:00.000-07:002006-04-11T13:09:00.000-07:002006-04-11T13:09:00.000-07:00In case you have been preoccupied their are some i...In case you have been preoccupied their are some immigrant groups that claim this land belongs to them and we are the illegals and have to leave.Blah blah blah - what I don't get is all this quibble over who owns what from the "conservative" crowd when everything is supposed to belong to God...what am I missing in this?BTW - I mean that I disagree.Awesome, we need to celebrate, because that's theKhaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144779760959926572006-04-11T11:22:00.000-07:002006-04-11T11:22:00.000-07:002006-04-11T11:22:00.000-07:00I believe that Dr. Yeagley is correct in statement...I believe that Dr. Yeagley is correct in statement concerning the immigration issues faceing this country.In case you have been preoccupied their are some immigrant groups that claim this land belongs to them and we are the illegals and have to leave.Just in case they are right do you have your bags packed?Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144777901829604442006-04-11T10:51:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:51:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:51:00.000-07:00You have told someone to shut up because you consi...You have told someone to shut up because you considered him illegal.As to your opinion - I hear what you say.BTW - I mean that I disagree.Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144777556280316542006-04-11T10:45:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:45:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:45:00.000-07:00There you go again. Trying to tell me how to think...There you go again. Trying to tell me how to think.And how many times have I told others on this board to "shut their pie hole?"If you don't take what I post here as my own opinion or critical thought - that's your own problem.Oops, there I go again, telling you how to think....oh brother.Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144776275779984942006-04-11T10:24:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:24:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:24:00.000-07:00suomynona,There you go again. Trying to tell me h...suomynona,There you go again. Trying to tell me how to think. Try stating your opinion concerning Yeagley and others as your opinion and that you recommend ... Get the message!!!As I said I will consider other peoples points of view and decide whether I agree or disagree.Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144775580736969402006-04-11T10:13:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:13:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:13:00.000-07:00The only thing I would promote that you dismiss in...The only thing I would promote that you dismiss in Yeagley is the he in any way represents the views of any Indian nation.He is not speaking for himself, his own opinion, or his personal views - but as if he knows and represents in whole the opinion of the Comanche nation and American Indian.As for attaching a "code for dismiss," if your viewpoint follows what "could be" considered extreme Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144774082171853572006-04-11T09:48:00.000-07:002006-04-11T09:48:00.000-07:002006-04-11T09:48:00.000-07:00suomynona,Actually I am somewhat familiar with Dr....suomynona,Actually I am somewhat familiar with Dr. Yeagley. My issue is that you are attaching a label that is code for dismiss. Dr. Yeagley is entitled to express his opinion. Others are free to share his opinion and state that they agree. You are free to disagree. However, you are not free to tell me how to think about other peoples viewpoints.I believe it would be folly to think that Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144771954568063012006-04-11T09:12:00.000-07:002006-04-11T09:12:00.000-07:002006-04-11T09:12:00.000-07:00leftyleftyKodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144770572185465712006-04-11T08:49:00.000-07:002006-04-11T08:49:00.000-07:002006-04-11T08:49:00.000-07:00Did it ever occur to you that he speaks for himsel...Did it ever occur to you that he speaks for himself?lew, did you miss my second statement?"Regardless, he no more speaks for the Native American than you do. His is just another radical right-wing conservative opinion."When he attaches a label..kodiak, get a little familiar with Yeagley and then tell me that he (at least) would not be considered of the extreme conservative viewpoint.You are Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144768616483900482006-04-11T08:16:00.000-07:002006-04-11T08:16:00.000-07:002006-04-11T08:16:00.000-07:00suomynona,You are guilty of the same issue that yo...suomynona,You are guilty of the same issue that you accuse some of the bloggers here. So can you say hypo.....Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144768351412478572006-04-11T08:12:00.000-07:002006-04-11T08:12:00.000-07:002006-04-11T08:12:00.000-07:00lew,Now you know that suomynona is the authority h...lew,Now you know that suomynona is the authority here and what ever he says goes. When he attaches a label we all must be good dogs and go lay down by our bowls. Not!Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144766351172233862006-04-11T07:39:00.000-07:002006-04-11T07:39:00.000-07:002006-04-11T07:39:00.000-07:00How typical, back anon. As soon as someone sets on...How typical, back anon. As soon as someone sets one foot off of the plantation, discredit them with RUMOR!!!Did it ever occur to you that he speaks for himself? Or, do you wish us to think you speak for a larger group yourself?You may place your head back where you keep it buried, now.Lewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144739312454677672006-04-11T00:08:00.000-07:002006-04-11T00:08:00.000-07:002006-04-11T00:08:00.000-07:00lew, you might as well be quoting Malkin on the hi...lew, you might as well be quoting Malkin on the history of the Asian kingdom...Dr. David A. Yeagley is the Native American equivalent of Benedict Arnold..although there's considerable question that he is even Comanche (well founded rumors he is adopted).Regardless, he no more speaks for the Native American than you do. His is just another radical right-wing conservative opinion.Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144735434900325262006-04-10T23:03:00.000-07:002006-04-10T23:03:00.000-07:002006-04-10T23:03:00.000-07:00Interesting quote I ran across today on illegal im...Interesting quote I ran across today on illegal immigration;Dr. David A. Yeagley, an American Indian and direct descendant of the Comanche warrior Bad Eagle says it best:America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as surprise to many white Lewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144713115746995202006-04-10T16:51:00.000-07:002006-04-10T16:51:00.000-07:002006-04-10T16:51:00.000-07:00Victoria, I was pointing out the stupid tactics yo...Victoria, I was pointing out the stupid tactics you and yours play everyday - blame the "left" no matter what.Simply put, it's pretty silly that the repubs who voted against the bill in majority would claim the democrats didn't want to move it forward, when they (dems) in majority voted for it...AND, an alternative bill that sounds more like something you and folks around here would cream Khaldunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05630208709233788206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144700051651318272006-04-10T13:14:00.000-07:002006-04-10T13:14:00.000-07:002006-04-10T13:14:00.000-07:00See anon backwards, I thought you were teaching me...See anon backwards, I thought you were teaching me something, but I guess not.Victoria Tafthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15566635810544426855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16945570.post-1144699444098016402006-04-10T13:04:00.000-07:002006-04-10T13:04:00.000-07:002006-04-10T13:04:00.000-07:00westsidedavid,If employers were fined heavily such...westsidedavid,If employers were fined heavily such they refuse to hire the illegals, the illegals will go home on their own. Those who turn to crime will be arrested and then sent home.The illegals are threatening to boycott on May 1, they think they are running the show. Wait long enough you'll be the minority.Kodiakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176489183754026207noreply@blogger.com