Anti Veteran Bias at Penn State. Sound Familiar?

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“What if it was ‘Oh, the gay one,’ or ‘Oh, the Asian kid?’ ” asks Maggie Kwok, head of the Penn State Veterans Organization in an interview with the Daily Collegian, PSU’s student newspaper. She is referring to a “training video,” prepared by the university’s Counseling and Psychological Services office, depicting “worrisome student behavior.”

Instructor: . . . So, I think that we should talk to everybody about that.

Chairman: Good, let’s bring it up at the staff meeting, OK?

Instructor: Actually, I kinda wanted to talk to you about something else? Um, I’m still having problems with that student I mentioned?

Chairman: The Veteran.

Instructor: Yeah. He’s having problems with his papers still. His grammar is really poor, and he veers off subject, and he’s just not really seeming to understand the assignments.

Sound familiar? “You know, education–if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

The video’s salient stereotype, however, is not of veterans as thickheaded but as angry. The instructor reluctantly tells the chairman that the student’s “tone is very confrontational, and I feel like he’s always on the verge of losing his temper.” The chairman asks if he has threatened her or if she is “worried about what he might do.” She says no, but “he makes me really uneasy.” He gives her some obvious advice, beginning: “If he ever threatens you, you call the police right away.”

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6 thoughts on “Anti Veteran Bias at Penn State. Sound Familiar?

  1. Here we go again. The myth of the “walking time bomb” deranged dangerous Veteran continues.

    What support and honor shown to those who sacrifice to keep us safe and secure.

  2. Oh I am sure our progressive friends here will come out and support everything said in this video Lew.

    I took issue when they started the whole session and refered to the student as “the Veteran”. That itself was a insult the way it pictured that Veterans were a common problem.

    Veterans are citizens too.. but apparently.. some folks in academia think differently.

  3. Kitanis, we saw all this long ago. TV Shows of the late ’60’s and early 70’s often featured the deranged Veteran creating havoc due to his war experiences.

    Look at the movies on Viet Nam and you will see it all very prevelant.

    Then again, it was none other than John ‘F’in Kerry who stated in his infamous “testimony” in 1971, “The country doesn’t know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in violence…..”

    To the left, we that served are those “monsters.”

  4. Lew

    From the post,

    “…and he veers off subject, and he’s just not really seeming to understand the assignments.”

    I had a economics professor like her once at PSU. He would lecture endlessly and glowingly about the “benefits of socialism” citing Rousseau, Marx, and Lenin and idolizing command and control economies. I had the audacity to “veer off subject” interjecting with Hayek, Adam Smith and Milton Friedman and steering the discussion to free markets.

    And since the only acceptable position in his class was vilifying capitalism he never felt I properly “understood” the lesson plan. I hope I made him feel uneasy by the end of the term!

  5. When I was attending National American University in South Dakota.. most of my classes were on the base at the Ellsworth AFB Campus. All of the teachers liked the military and the former military who attended classes there..

    One of them who was a full Doctor who taught also at the South Dakota School of Mines & Technology told me that he loved and prefered the Ellsworth Campus because the military and the veterans did their assignments without the normal tricks and exuses than the “young” students that the SDSMT campus tried.

    But one day I took a day Network Security Systems seminar at the main NAU campus in Rapid City because I was part of the Base Network Security Team due to my rank and position within the Communications Squadron and none of the rest of the network administrators could attend due to them being at a mandatory conference at the command headquarters. So me and the commander went.

    The main instructor treated us like a pirahha.. and actually tried to persuade many of the civilian outfits to not share with us any of their experiences. “The military network people are too invovled with the Bush Administrations war in Iraq to effectively deal with us in the real world”.

    Part of the exercises was a “courtesy” attempt to penetrate participant companies networks by a “approved” hacker to prove just how unsecure the internet was.

    My commander gave me authorization to let the hacker attempt to hack into our network backbone. The screen was shown the 200 participants on a big screen.. Out of 140 individual companies present.. 75 netowrks were compromised within minutes. The Most of the rest eventually fell. The base network was never hacked that day.

    I was busy for the rest of the night fielding questions alongside with the commander. The main instructor looked quite angry everytime I saw him the rest of the night.

  6. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to refer to the student as “the veteran” if that’s something really distinctive about him like referring to me as “the designer kid” in a class.

    At the same time, the video is unrealistic and some of the things the student says aren’t as unreasonable as the video treats them since there are numerous real-life examples of a professor punishing a student that they don’t like or disagree with. If anyone remembers, there was even an incident where a professor named Peter Kirstin replied to a polite request from an Air Force cadet with a nasty email calling him a baby-killer.

    As Lew points out, this is just a highly sophisticated version of the Ticking Time Bomb© stereotype.

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