Does this message even tell us how Obama feels about the death penalty? AND Does his feelings on the Death penalty really tell us anything about how tough he is on Gang violence or Terrorism?
What else was in this bill that Obama was against. What exactly does he believe related to the death penalty?
I know people who are blatenly against the death penalty, who believe in being tough on terror.
Anytime I hear about someone voting against or for some bill, with some subset of the information in it offered, I have to wonder what else was in the bill. Since we clutter all the legislation with crap, that often has nothing to do with the bill, we make it even harder for anyone to get anything useful from this type of advertising, without doing a whole bunch of research (which most don't have the time to do).
Keith, I find it quite relevant, and am somewhat surprised that you do not.
I think the two questions I asked are the very thing that this clip is trying to get people to assume Obama has a specific view on, and what that view is.
How can you call that irrelevant, when it is the core of how the clip is interpreted?
I can't believe I agree with (KEITHY - I'M VOTING FOR OBAMA AND WORSHIP THE GROUND IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM WALKS ON)
He's right Eileen and if 9/11 would have happened under Hussein Obama, Court TV would still be on the air, and the 9/11 trials would still be going on. Obama is a typical socialist who hates the Death Penalty for any reason. No Obama and Billery are definite CUT & RUNNERS and Weak on Terror.
If George Bush is so tough on terror, why has Osama Bin Laden not been caught? Further, why wasn't he the primary focus of the ongoing war, as opposed to Saddam Hussein and Iraq, who have been proven to have had NOTHING to do with 9/11?
Heres some food for thought: If Obama wins the nomination; he will beat Mcain in November. If Hillary wins over Obama; she will beat Mcain in November. In a worst case scenario, Mcain wins and kicks Bushie out of the White House. With a Democratic controlled congress Mcain Will enter office as a lame duck and would be forced to do what the Dems want for the next four years anyway!
What would getting Bin Laden do? Seriously? Did you actually just ask what might be the dumbest question in the history of dumb questions?
Getting Bin Laden is a step towards justice. It's a sign that we know ourwartime priorities and that we're not just picking a fight because we feel like it.
Bin Laden is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in NYC, Pennsylvania, and Washington DC.
Yeah, you're right ... he's not important. We should just let him go.
Doug, Thanks for the link to the story. I wonder (if) when the MSM will pick up the story or are they so wedded to the global warming lies that they can't gulp and tell the story.
But please, by all means feel free to ignore the final portion of that very short article:
"Critics quickly pointed out that Chapman may have been "cherry-picking" the data. A strong La Nina formation in the Pacific pushed down January temperatures over much of the Northern Hemisphere from where they had been a year earlier, but average global temperatures are still much higher than the 20th-century average, and the NOAA said last week that last month was the warmest March on record.
It's not relevant, Eileen, what Obama believes about the death penalty. The point of the clip is that he didn't want to extend it to gang murders. This has no bearing on his feelings on the death penalty itself.
It's not relevant because we can't know the entirety of the legislation so there's no point in trying to distort the import of the clip on the basis of "we don't know every possible relevant fact."
I think, iknowhowtospell, that Lew's point isn't that there's no reason to go after Bin Ladin but rather, it ultimately has no value beyond symbolism. Symbolically, we'll nail the planner of many terrorist attacks against the US and that's certainly a good thing to do. But will Al Quaeda and similarly sophisticated terrorist groups crumble without him? No. Thus, Bin Ladin isn't so much a solution to the problem as a symbol to us of getting justice. I believe that was Lew's point.
As to the caveat at the end of that little article, why is it of any significance? There's gaping holes in global warming theory. There's gaping holes in global cooling theory. Either one is extraordinarily educated guesswork so why is a statement to that effect singificant?
It's not relevant, Eileen, what (Keithy the Resident Rino Seminar Blogger Moore) or his friend IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM think about the death penalty. As usual they get off topic.
Keithy: Your first post on Victoria"s blog was March 10 2008 Corresponding with Ungars Furs.
Another Blogger by the name of "CNSKATE" last posted on Victoria's blog Feb 7. He talked an awful lot like you. I was wrong about the bill Bradbury assistant comparison and yourself but I can uncover a Rino in Minutes. AND i'M NOT WRONG!
Keithy Moore said: And it's not relevant what Klatu (resident Conservative In Name Only) thinks about the relevance of me and iknowhowtospell.
And cnskate said: Feb.7 McCain is winning because you authoritarian types all sit around and insult fellow conservatives, alienating them and making them vote for moderate candidates. Well done, I told you to do it differently, now look what you have done.
07 February, 2008 15:02
This Clown and yourself are and probably were definite RINO'S he was very transparent to many of us on Victoria's blog. Your a little smoother Keith Rino unless you are?
Klatu, if you get to spew your own dumb theories about me being a "RINO", I get to spew my own dumb theories about you being a "CINO". Tit for tat, yanno.
As a general rule, I have sufficient intelletual honesty to give a nod to someone who argues in a calm and rational fashion. Likewise, I have sufficient intellecutal honesty to criticize someone who argues in a loudmouthed ad hominem fashion. You should try achieving this level of honesty. It would do you good.
So now you're moving from being utterly clueless about who I am to being obscenely clueless about who I am. You've managed to go down a peg in the world. Congratulations.
So Keithy do you listen to these radio shows daily, And don't give me this I'm working Crap.
Oh so your coming after me with all that "RONNY PAUL" Logic are we now. And so you'll jump on the Bandwagon with "VALERIE" now and start calling Victoria a NEOCON NOW along with me. "CNSKATE" beat up on all of us Pro-Victoria Bloggers for so long that were immune to the Propaganda now Keithy from you fakes.
Ps: Keithy make your Dull Boring Posts longer will ya. There's so much Blog space to waste.
PPS: Say hi to IKNOWHOWTOSPELL for me and have him continue to come to my Blog. I love using the ERASE Button.
IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM: Really, good to see your checking in with my Blog. You and your Communist friends are giving me practice with my Erase Button.
PS: Oh and say Hi to Your friend Keithy the Resident intellectual Rino RON PAUL Loving Blogger. Or is Keithy's real name "CNSKATE"?
Well, lesse... I listen to Rush, Taft, and Levin daily. I normally listen to Neal Boortz in the time slot that also includes Lars Larson and Sean Hannity and Mike Reagan is on at a time in which I'm not in my car and thus can't pick up the broadcast. So there ya go.
Klatu, has someone told you today that you're an idiot? Because I'd like to do the daily task. I go out and call Ron Paul's foreign policy ideas idiocy and you start babbling about neocons. Do your comments have the remotest connection to the real world?
Figure's you Listen to Libertarian Neal Bootrz over Monitoring Conservative's such as Sean Hannity, Lars Larson, Michael Reagan. Most Ronny Paul Loving Libertarians would and do like Libertarian Neal Bootrz. Keith why don't you just admit your a Libertarian. Its obvious your not a Conservative. Just like "CNSKATE".
Ps: Your Long Posts are so damm Boring. Your a perfect Candidate for Obama Young and STUPID.
PPS; Keith Rino ask your Question to Victoria or Lew Waters - Does Klatu's comments have the remotest connection to the real world?
I'd like to know what they think since I've been blogging longer then Victoria's blog was ever on the Web. I don't give a rip what you Keith Libertarian rino or CNSKATE think.
Well, it's either Boortz or admit to listening to Dr. Laura...
Klatu, do you even know the difference between libertarian and conservative? I somehow doubt it.
Klatu, did you learn anything from being too thick to recognize the difference between me and some aide to Kulongloski or Potter or whoever the hell it was? Based on the fact that you now can't tell the difference between me and someone named CNSNAKE, I gather not.
*sigh* Klatu would you at least make an intelligent attempt to identify what sort of Republican you're referring to? Based on who voted for which Republican nominee, you've got your evangelist Republicans, your socially conservative Republicans, your financially incompetant Republicans, your economically libertarian Republicans, your classic Reagan Republicans and so on. So which sort of Republican are you saying I'm pretending to be without actually being?
Somehow, Klatu, I doubt you're much older than me. Your apparent immaturity, grammatical insufficiency, and somewhat limited vocabulary would normally incline me to think you were in high school but please enlighten the blog as to your real age.
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Does this message even tell us how Obama feels about the death penalty?
AND
Does his feelings on the Death penalty really tell us anything about how tough he is on Gang violence or Terrorism?
What else was in this bill that Obama was against.
What exactly does he believe related to the death penalty?
I know people who are blatenly against the death penalty, who believe in being tough on terror.
Anytime I hear about someone voting against or for some bill, with some subset of the information in it offered, I have to wonder what else was in the bill.
Since we clutter all the legislation with crap, that often has nothing to do with the bill, we make it even harder for anyone to get anything useful from this type of advertising, without doing a whole bunch of research (which most don't have the time to do).
No to your first question, Eileen, yes to your second one.
Good question. That's irrelevant.
That's nice. What does that have to do with anything?
Good point but irrelevant.
Keith,
I find it quite relevant, and am somewhat surprised that you do not.
I think the two questions I asked are the very thing that this clip is trying to get people to assume Obama has a specific view on, and what that view is.
How can you call that irrelevant, when it is the core of how the clip is interpreted?
Did you watch the same clip I did?
I can't believe I agree with
(KEITHY - I'M VOTING FOR OBAMA AND WORSHIP THE GROUND IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM WALKS ON)
He's right Eileen and if 9/11 would have happened under
Hussein Obama, Court TV would still be on the air, and the 9/11 trials would still be going on.
Obama is a typical socialist
who hates the Death Penalty for any reason. No Obama and Billery are definite CUT & RUNNERS and Weak on Terror.
PS: Are you listening
John McCain
If George Bush is so tough on terror, why has Osama Bin Laden not been caught? Further, why wasn't he the primary focus of the ongoing war, as opposed to Saddam Hussein and Iraq, who have been proven to have had NOTHING to do with 9/11?
Heres some food for thought: If Obama wins the nomination; he will beat Mcain in November. If Hillary wins over Obama; she will beat Mcain in November. In a worst case scenario, Mcain wins and kicks Bushie out of the White House. With a Democratic controlled congress Mcain Will enter office as a lame duck and would be forced to do what the Dems want for the next four years anyway!
From CBS News, hardly Right Winged;
Obama Record May Be Gold Mine For Critics
jony, don't hold your breath.
iknow, please explain what getting Bin Laden accomplishes, beyond a great morale booster. Do you think it would stop radical Jihadists?
What would getting Bin Laden do? Seriously? Did you actually just ask what might be the dumbest question in the history of dumb questions?
Getting Bin Laden is a step towards justice. It's a sign that we know ourwartime priorities and that we're not just picking a fight because we feel like it.
Bin Laden is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in NYC, Pennsylvania, and Washington DC.
Yeah, you're right ... he's not important. We should just let him go.
Victoria you might want to check this out on Global cooling.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352241,00.html
Check this out on global cooling
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352241,00.html
Doug,
Thanks for the link to the story. I wonder (if) when the MSM will pick up the story or are they so wedded to the global warming lies that they can't gulp and tell the story.
But please, by all means feel free to ignore the final portion of that very short article:
"Critics quickly pointed out that Chapman may have been "cherry-picking" the data. A strong La Nina formation in the Pacific pushed down January temperatures over much of the Northern Hemisphere from where they had been a year earlier, but average global temperatures are still much higher than the 20th-century average, and the NOAA said last week that last month was the warmest March on record.
It's not relevant, Eileen, what Obama believes about the death penalty. The point of the clip is that he didn't want to extend it to gang murders. This has no bearing on his feelings on the death penalty itself.
It's not relevant because we can't know the entirety of the legislation so there's no point in trying to distort the import of the clip on the basis of "we don't know every possible relevant fact."
I think, iknowhowtospell, that Lew's point isn't that there's no reason to go after Bin Ladin but rather, it ultimately has no value beyond symbolism. Symbolically, we'll nail the planner of many terrorist attacks against the US and that's certainly a good thing to do. But will Al Quaeda and similarly sophisticated terrorist groups crumble without him? No. Thus, Bin Ladin isn't so much a solution to the problem as a symbol to us of getting justice. I believe that was Lew's point.
As to the caveat at the end of that little article, why is it of any significance? There's gaping holes in global warming theory. There's gaping holes in global cooling theory. Either one is extraordinarily educated guesswork so why is a statement to that effect singificant?
It's not relevant, Eileen, what (Keithy the Resident Rino Seminar Blogger Moore) or his friend IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM think about the death penalty.
As usual they get off topic.
PS: Doug, yea thanks for the Linkto the ARTICLE.
And it's not relevant what Klatu (resident Conservative In Name Only) thinks about the relevance of me and iknowhowtospell.
See, Klatu? I can make up childish titles for people too!
Keithy: Question
1. DO YOU LIKE Rushlimbaugh's
2. SEAN HANNITY's
3. VICTORIA TAFT's
4. LARS LARSON's
5. MARK LEVIN's
6. MICHAEL REAGAN'S
RADIO SHOWS
And your (CINO) CRAP
is exactly what another Blogger
was saying about me who dissapeared from Victoria's Blog
about the same time you appeared.
Interesting
Maybe you know him Keithy
I'll find out his name.
Ps: Your Still defending IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM.
What an absolute _ _ _ _.
Keithy: Your first post on Victoria"s blog was March 10 2008
Corresponding with Ungars Furs.
Another Blogger by the name of
"CNSKATE" last posted on Victoria's blog Feb 7. He talked an awful lot like you. I was wrong about the bill Bradbury assistant comparison and yourself but I can uncover a Rino in Minutes. AND i'M NOT WRONG!
Keithy Moore said: And it's not relevant what Klatu (resident Conservative In Name Only) thinks about the relevance of me and iknowhowtospell.
And cnskate said: Feb.7 McCain is winning because you authoritarian types all sit around and insult fellow conservatives, alienating them and making them vote for moderate candidates. Well done, I told you to do it differently, now look what you have done.
07 February, 2008 15:02
This Clown and yourself are and probably were definite RINO'S
he was very transparent to many of us on Victoria's blog.
Your a little smoother Keith Rino unless you are?
Good Luck to ya CNSKATE, Kinda
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
Klatu, if you get to spew your own dumb theories about me being a "RINO", I get to spew my own dumb theories about you being a "CINO". Tit for tat, yanno.
As a general rule, I have sufficient intelletual honesty to give a nod to someone who argues in a calm and rational fashion. Likewise, I have sufficient intellecutal honesty to criticize someone who argues in a loudmouthed ad hominem fashion. You should try achieving this level of honesty. It would do you good.
So now you're moving from being utterly clueless about who I am to being obscenely clueless about who I am. You've managed to go down a peg in the world. Congratulations.
So Keithy do you listen to these radio shows daily, And don't give me this I'm working Crap.
Oh so your coming after me with all that "RONNY PAUL" Logic are we now. And so you'll jump on the Bandwagon with "VALERIE" now and start calling Victoria a NEOCON NOW along with me. "CNSKATE" beat up on all of us Pro-Victoria Bloggers for so long that were immune to the Propaganda now Keithy from you fakes.
Ps: Keithy make your Dull Boring Posts longer will ya. There's so much Blog space to waste.
PPS: Say hi to IKNOWHOWTOSPELL for me and have him continue to come to my Blog. I love using the ERASE Button.
I posted twice, per his invitation. He got erase happy.
All he ever did was post YouTube videos anyway. Nothing from his own, mosquito sized mind.
IKNOWHOWTOSPELLCOMMUNISM: Really, good to see your
checking in with my Blog.
You and your Communist friends are
giving me practice with
my Erase Button.
PS: Oh and say Hi to
Your friend Keithy
the Resident intellectual Rino RON PAUL Loving Blogger.
Or is Keithy's real name
"CNSKATE"?
Well, lesse... I listen to Rush, Taft, and Levin daily. I normally listen to Neal Boortz in the time slot that also includes Lars Larson and Sean Hannity and Mike Reagan is on at a time in which I'm not in my car and thus can't pick up the broadcast. So there ya go.
Klatu, has someone told you today that you're an idiot? Because I'd like to do the daily task. I go out and call Ron Paul's foreign policy ideas idiocy and you start babbling about neocons. Do your comments have the remotest connection to the real world?
Figure's you Listen to Libertarian Neal Bootrz over Monitoring Conservative's such as Sean Hannity, Lars Larson, Michael Reagan. Most Ronny Paul Loving Libertarians would and do like Libertarian Neal Bootrz. Keith why don't you just admit your a Libertarian. Its obvious your not a Conservative. Just like "CNSKATE".
Ps: Your Long Posts are so damm Boring.
Your a perfect Candidate for Obama
Young and STUPID.
PPS; Keith Rino ask your Question to Victoria or Lew Waters - Does Klatu's comments have the remotest connection to the real world?
I'd like to know what they think since I've been blogging longer then Victoria's blog was ever on the Web.
I don't give a rip what you Keith Libertarian rino or CNSKATE think.
Well, it's either Boortz or admit to listening to Dr. Laura...
Klatu, do you even know the difference between libertarian and conservative? I somehow doubt it.
Klatu, did you learn anything from being too thick to recognize the difference between me and some aide to Kulongloski or Potter or whoever the hell it was? Based on the fact that you now can't tell the difference between me and someone named CNSNAKE, I gather not.
*sigh* Klatu would you at least make an intelligent attempt to identify what sort of Republican you're referring to? Based on who voted for which Republican nominee, you've got your evangelist Republicans, your socially conservative Republicans, your financially incompetant Republicans, your economically libertarian Republicans, your classic Reagan Republicans and so on. So which sort of Republican are you saying I'm pretending to be without actually being?
Somehow, Klatu, I doubt you're much older than me. Your apparent immaturity, grammatical insufficiency, and somewhat limited vocabulary would normally incline me to think you were in high school but please enlighten the blog as to your real age.
Klatu,
If you want people to look at your blog, you need to use the login here, which takes them to the profile, that has a link to your blog on it.
That is often how I find new blogs to read.
I click on a profile of someone who posts something. I then see if they have a blog.
Then I look at it.
That is how I originally found your blog.
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