So, they're doing it FOR THE CHILDREN??? It's all because the schools can't or won't fight the unions. So a pervert teacher gets a pass and a good report from the district when he/she seeks another job.
Aren't teachers, principals etc., REPORTING PARTIES under the law?
But, hey, it's too expensive to bring them up on charges so they're left to offend again.
Good for the Zero for bringing it up here.
There are a lot of public officials who did a lot of tsk tsking when the pedophile priest story was in full flow. Where are those tsk tskers now? Looking the other way. Where are the defenders of the public employees unions when one of their own offends against a child and is given a pass just to get him/her the heck out of their school. Passing the trash...they actually have a name for it!
Then, as NW Republican reports here, Jackson County libraries must negotiate with the SEIU union even though they cost too much money. Jackson County wasn't going to get its Timber Money (read: Spotted Owl Pay off).
Taxpayers, the clients, lose again to the unions. What's the government for again? Oh, yeah, the unions.
I talked to TWO PEOPLE TODAY ALONE who are moving out of metro area proper for just such expensive stuff as these. They also plan to NOT RETIRE in Oregon.
Monday, February 18, 2008
Teachers Unions and Schools Cover Up for Pedophile Teachers. Where's Catholic Priest-like Outrage?
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I realize this posting is long, but I encourage everyone to read it. This is the most hidden fact about the spotted owl issue. The timber companies are using it as a scapegoat for their own lack of planning and forsight. Don't blame those poor library workers. As contributing members of society all they are asking for is a few benifits (ie sick leave and medical). And Jackson county voters turned down a small property tax that would have paid for it! We all enjoy libraries right?
Ok. Here is what the timber companies do not want to tell you: First, the national recession during the early 1990s hurt the wood products sector badly. But due to higher housing starts and timber prices, the industry began to recover. The timber companies in the NW did better in 1992 and 1993 than in 1991. In the first half of 1993, profits at those companies that rely most heavily on wood products were up 179 percent from the same period in 1992.
Through the mid-1990s, smaller sawmill companies in the Pacific Northwest were hurt by contracting supply and continued to decline in number. The companies disregarded forecasts, dating back to the 1970s, of a looming timber shortage during the 1990s. They also suggested that at the rate the loggers were cutting, the Pacific Northwest would have had severe supply problems by the year 2000, regardless of the spotted owl-endangerment controversy.
Lumber markets improved in 1996 due to tightened lumber supplies and better pricing for lumber products. Housing starts increased 5 percent in 1996, aiding wood products sales. However, the industry also struggled against competing materials, namely steel for wood, in homebuilding. An increasing number of builders used steel-frame housing; an estimated 80,000 houses were built with the technology in 1996, compared to 800 houses in 1992. The availability of affordable wood products, however, dampened this building construction trend.
Cutbacks of harvesting on federal lands has had a diverse impact on industry participants. Some believe that the largest companies—at least those with substantial timber holdings of their own—have been less than vigorous in fighting curtailments of logging on federal land. These firms have huge plantations of genetically improved trees, which afford them ample supply. Their reliance on federal sales of old-growth trees is relatively small, and the spotted owl does not appear to thrive on their own second- and third-growth forests. It has been argued, therefore, that these companies have been willing, and even happy, to accept restrictions on logging of federal lands.
Small, independent sawmill owners, on the other hand, have relied since World War II on public lands to supply the old-growth logs that can be turned into specialty products. The trees they used were often as much as five centuries old; consequently, they were often inhabited by the spotted owl. The trees that have been engineered by big corporations are but a tenth the age and only half the height of the old-growth trees. Often they are too small for the saws andconveyor belts of the old-time sawmills.
Level terrain, frost-free winters, and numerous highways made logging much easier in the South than it was in the Northwest. Trees in the region grew faster because of the relatively warm winters. Since most of the South's acreage was logged years ago, there is little of the old-growth forest that has aroused such strong environmental opposition in the Northwest. Most notably, some 90 percent of Southern timberland is privately owned.
The Asian economic crisis hindered industry growth during the late 1990s. Reductions in Japanese demand for wood products, especially for housing applications, meant a reduction in exports to that country and contributed to oversupply in the United States. Imports and the growth in forest product capacity in emerging countries, which protected themselves with high tariffs, also contributed to oversupply. The top five export countries in 1997 were Canada (22.0 percent), Japan (17.5 percent), Germany (8.0 percent), the United Kingdom (6.7 percent), and Mexico (5.5 percent). The top five import countries were Canada (83.5 percent), Indonesia (3.6 percent), Brazil (3.2 percent), Mexico (1.4 percent), and Chile (1.1 percent). The U.S. forest products industry saw the easing of trade barriers as critical. Government negotiators work to equalize international trade; however, a tariff agreement presented at the World Trade Organization meeting in December 1999 was not acted upon. The agreement would have eliminated tariffs on paper products between 2000 and 2002 and on wood products between 2002 and 2004.
and the enviros went crazy with the spotted owl lies. See that picture of the other owl? Yeah, that's the real reason why spotted owls are dying; the barred owls are killing them.
Victoria, the reason pedophile "educators" are allowed a "free pass" is the same reason the liberals called the victim Paula Jones "trailer trash," and called the liar Anita Hill a "heroine."
The unions will always claim their mandate is to defend their members, not to defend the children in the care of their members.
Victoria, their is no doubt that the spotted owl can only survive in old growth forests. Old Growth Forests are America's national treasures and should be protected as such. The American people have repeatedly asked congress to preserve some of these public places for future generations to experience. You may be right to say that American citizens used the spotted owl issue to ALSO protect old growth forests (ie habitat). But as you can see from what was written above it clearly had only a marginal impact on logging (if any at all) due to the logging industries own mistakes and misfortunes. These facts are well documented. I encourage you to do your own research before spreading propaganda next time.
BTW, insider, the supply, or lack thereof, was caused by lawsuits and other enviro-weenie sabotage, which destroyed the small timber companies. The fact is that there is more timber now than 30 years ago. It just can't be logged. Remember the shut-down of salvage logging in diseased timber over in Eastern Oregon? Remember the shut-down of salvage logging after the Biscuit Fire? Remember the failure of the Clinton Plan?
The higher prices you noted in the '90s came from artificially reduced supplies, not higher yields.
And please get your "science" right. The "genetically" improved trees are a myth. History has shown that these "Super Trees" grow just like regular trees. There has been NO advantage in that grand experiment.
The timber companies with large land holdings had a definite stake in encouraging (or actually helping) liberals in strangling the Gypos. Lower timber supplies, and fewer competitors worked to their advantage. In addition, with large international timber holdings, the larger firms were able to utilize their own imports. The shift from domestic lumber production to the log export market helped maintain revenues, and drastically reduced domestic labor costs (that means jobs to you union lefties, out there).
The mill closings from Northern California to the Canadian border are absolute proof of this.
As for the Spotted Owl, when they can nest in a K-Mart sign, I really doubt that "old growth" is required. That's another lefty myth. The Spotted Owls go where the food is, and the Barred Owls aren't.
I'm betting that the green-weenies haven't been counting the Barred Owl numbers, since that doesn't help their war against the U.S. economy, or support their nonsense re the Spotted Owls and logging.
Sorry bear, Your facts are incorrect. Even a minimal amount of research will show that the spotted owl is very environmentaly sensitive (Aside from anecdotal instances that mean nothing). The small timber companies could not adapt to the changing climate and that is why they shut down. See above; could not cut smaller trees, less production due to less old growth and changes in the economy. Your right in that some of these changes may have inadvertantly helped the preservationists causes, but the spotted owl issue simply didn't shut down the forests the way people like to think. Part of this is because the red blooded Americans who fought for these protections want to claim their success, while the timber companies are all to willing to play the blame game then to explain to the logging communities that it was actually their own fault. If you want to chortle on about this be my guest, but the facts speak for themselves. You can deny this all you want but it still will not make your non- facts true.
As a student of the O.S.U. (then)School of Forestry, having grown up in a lumber family, worked in the woods, and having been a paid consultant to major forest products firms here and abroad, I'll match facts with anyone, anytime. Everything I wrote will stand.
As President Reagan once said, "Folks on the left know a great deal, it's just that most of what they know isn't so."
Your understanding of forest economics is sad, indeed, and is driven by your ideology, not facts.
What "facts" do you offer to excuse your pals, the pedophile teachers and their enabling unions?
Victoria, I have always come to the conclusion that to stop adults from preying on children in school is to REMOVE SEXUALITY EDUCATION TOTALLY. Sex classes remove the age-old boundaries between children and adults.
Students need to return to addressing their teachers as ‘Mr.’ Mrs. etc.
The school play at Wilson 3-1/2 years ago? ‘Anything Goes.’ Which makes sense because the student art work on display in the entryway? Nudity. You can see photographs of the student art online at Vulgar Nude Paintings on Display at Portland High School Portland PUblic Schools has a contract with the Pacific NW College of Art – at which I have seen with my own eyes pornographic ‘art’ on display.
While there read the post The NEA: THE GRAB FOR POWER'
Bear, As a student of the O.S.U. School of Forestry, having grown up in a lumber family, worked in the woods, and having been a paid consultant to major forest products firms here and abroad you have a very limited (and biased point of view). Its really not surprising considering your background. Perhaps you never even graduated, I suspect. And most fields of interest recognize the OSU school of forestry to be very biased towards the timber industry. Remember how the OSU school of forestry tried to censor Don Donato's Scientifically published Joural artical? I'll tell you then; “Post-Wildfire Logging Hinders Regeneration and Increases Fire Risk.” The name says it all. But if you want to debate salvage logging I will do that some other time because it has nothing to do with this particuar issue even though you sloppily brought up the biscuit fire in an earlier post.
I spent 12 years working for the USDA Forest Service. I am currently a graduate student in Geology. But who cares about my credentials. What I described above are simply facts. Facts that you or anyone else can verify with minimal research and a strong willingness to learn. I encourage you to do so. I think you only know enough to be dangerous. Get the facts.
HERE ARE MY SOURCES:
Barnard, Jeff. "Feds Agree to Owl Protection Reviews." Associated Press, 16 January 2003.
"Can the Courts Save Wilderness?" New York Times, 4 January 2003.
Cohn, Laura. "Housing Is Not a House of Cards." BusinessWeek, 2 September 2002.
Daly, Matthew. "Environmentalists Cheer Rare Victory as Court Restores Forest Protections." Associated Press, 14 December 2002.
Erb, George. "Timber or Salmon: Deal Would Reduce Logging." Puget Sound Business Journal, 22 January 1999.
Heilprin, John. "Ruling Rejects Bush's Forest Plans." Associated Press, 14 December 2002.
Pear, Robert. "Bush Plan Gives More Discretion to Forest Managers on Logging." New York Times, 28 November 2002.
Petit, Charles W. "Fire Storm." U.S. News & World Report, 9 September 2002.
Seideman, David. "Out on a Limb." Audubon, November 1999.
U.S. Department of Commerce: Bureau of the Census; International Trade Administration (ITA). "Trade and Economy: Data and Analysis." 30 January 2002. Available from http://www.ita.doc.gov.
U.S. Department of Commerce, Economics, and Statistics Administration, U.S. Census Bureau. "Lumber Production and Mill Stocks: 2001." Current Industrial Reports, July 2002. Available from http://www.census.gov.
U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics. "Forestry, Conservation and Logging Workers." 2002-2003 Occupational Outlook Handbook. Available from http://www.bls.gov.
"U.S. Plans Tree-Thinning in Forests." Associated Press. 11 December 2002.
Whitman, David. "See Forests through Trees." U.S. News & World Report, 25 October 1999.
Stealth Ed: Figure drawing deals with an artistic tradition where you look at the science and the expressiveness of the human body. its a traditional aproach to the most basic drawing classes. This is not about being republican or conservative. (Because I am sure their must be a few bona fied repubican artists in the world!) The fact that you are ashamed of the human figure reveals that you have repressed sexual issues.
L.O.L., insider, ANYONE quoting the NYT, or the Associated (with terrorists) Press has just destroyed their credibility. Please, my sides are hurting!
BTW, insider, the Journal article by Don Donato you cited was a hit job, widely and thoroughly debunked by actual scientists. O.S.U. disavowed this punk and his phony work. Nice try.
O.K. Bear, so the AP is controlled by terrorists and "Science" Journal is a fraud. I am glad to hear you are so enlightened.
From the California State Senate Website, there is a great article regarding this issue (in general- not Jackson county).
"There is a common assumption that U.S. environmental regulations, which expanded as manufacturing declined, share a responsibility for these market shifts.... However, a number of respected studies, including a multi-year data-collection survey by the U.S.
Department of Labor, have found environmental regulations have had minimal impact on job losses... The data suggest 40 times more job losses have resulted from ownership changes in leveraged buyouts and mergers."
And in an artical titled "The Economic Benefits of Species Protection" By Emily P Roberson Phd Senior Land Management Analysis Ca. Native plant Society:
"Discussions of Species protection are often overshadowed by fears that species protection will result in widespread job losses, even losses of ways of life. Close
exammination, however, often reveals the actual tradeoff is between one type of job and
another, rather than between species protection and employment; that is, jobs that depend on one species, such as redwood or cotton, may be in conflict with jobs that depend on other species such as salmon, or on tourism".
We already know you can't back up your sources, insider. Trying out new ones can't help you.
You and the other green-weenies can't destroy entire industries and justify the highest unemployment rates in the nation by referring to job "shifts."
The Clinton Plan can never be called anything but a hit job on the northwest forest industry. It FAILED! It was a LIE!
As further evidence of your economic naivete', whenever businesses are failing, sell-outs and mergers are a prime indicator.
Your last line of defense is the Ca. Native Plant Society. Now, THERE'S an authority on the northwest timber industry! Not.
"Species protection" means virtually shutting down the logging and salvage of public timber. Oregon Counties are desperate for the revenue this WOULD have generated for schools.
Protecting salmon habitat and sea lions is killing the fishing industry AND timber production, AND threatening our regional power output. Cost of living goes up, economy suffers, jobs decline further. The fact that Oregon's economy has lagged significantly behind the national averages blows your pale thesis out of the water.
You have failed to refute even one fact I have presented. Instead, in true liberal fashion, you have changed the subject, and/or cited fraudulent sources. Billions of board feet of timber have been allowed to ROT, while green-weenie lawsuits argue ENVIRONMENTAL regulations, not "job shifts." Meanwhile, more jobs evaporate.
Enough of this, and enough of you.
What facts? You didn't present any facts. The new info is just some quotes from government studys, and it furthers my point. But yeah, I know...the terrorists have taken over the media and you (with your experience peddling wood products) know more than any peer reviewed scientific Journal.
In recent years, high technology has assumed the role previously played by forest products, but forests, farms and ranches, retail trade, and tourism are significant elements of the state's economic profile. However, rural Oregon counties were generally left out of any shift to a new economy. When the boom of the 1990s collapsed, Oregon was again confronted with high unemployment, widespread hunger, and a diminishing safety net of social services.
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