If you don't believe it just take a look at what same sex marriage fringies admit to being up to with so called 'outing' names of those who sign the marriage petitions.
The new web page of the so called "know they neighbor" effort encourages folks to
"TURN THE TABLES" and to "DECLINE TO SIGN."
Do you suppose the homosexual community would support efforts to list names of people who frequent gay clubs, bath houses, or who suffer from HIV?
The petition to which these kooks refer can be found here at www.letoregonvote.org.
The left has been trying to stifle the initiative process for the past few years. Unwritten rules have been invoked to subvert the process by Bill Bradbury and signature rules have been approved with the result being that it is more difficult than ever before to get an initiative on the ballot.
Now this group's aim is to use blackmail, if you will, to discourage people from signing a petition to call for another vote on these two issues that Oregonians have already voted on and decided (but which the legislature overturned). This means this subset of the homosexual rights clan (klan?) now have lowered themselves to threatening people who disagree with them. Sounds like the left is growing ever more comfortable with the totalitarian ways of their heroes Marx, Lenin, and Stalin.
Monday, August 27, 2007
Gay Fringe Threatens Oregon Voters Who Sign Petitions *Update
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I will Proudly Sign My Name and if they will give me Their address deliver a copy to their house on the way to turn in to Secretariat Of State. for Verification.
This type of intimidation may be illegal. You might want to get one of your lawyer pals to check RICO statutes.
Bah.
If you want to stand up and deny other American citizens the rights you freely enjoy, you should have the courage to actually *stand up* for what you believe.
Whining about your “privacy” while you actively practice and advocate discrimination is what the guys in pointy white hoods are all about. They, too, feel they have the right to anonymously deny the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to others, based on their own warped ideas of humanity.
Show your face if you *truly* believe in a second class citizenry. Have the courage of your convictions. Let everyone see who you are and what you stand for.
I double-dog dare you.
Victoria: You should find out who these Leftist Socialist Misfits are on your Blogg, there Real Names, Phone Numbers,email address, there Home address, etc, then maybe "LIST" them on the front page of the Portland Tribune, Drudge Report, and National and Local Talk radio can recite them verbally ,and maybe start with "aktaion". Two can play this Kindergarten Game.
Ps: and Victoria any word from the good ole "ACLU" on this????????
speaking of privacy.
PPs: This would be a GREAT skit for the 1/2 hr. News hr.
OREILY might even get a big LAUGH out of this.
klatu:
I'm one of those that believe the signer's names ought to be made public. I also believe in being fair. So here's my real name, my real number: Brendan K Callahan 503-238-3274. Also note, I never have, nor will I answer calls without valid ANI* information. If you do call, I may post that information as well. Also, persuant to ORS 165.540 (1)(c), your call may also be recorded. Please keep calls to constructive purposes. If you wish to debate said subjects, and such, your calls would be welcome. If you want to harass, well, there are laws that cover that.
*(Caller ID in laymen's terms, not the same, but similiar)
So Brendan _ _ _ _ _ _ _. So Much for Privacy A. How bout I get President Bush to WIRE TAP YOUR_ _ + HOUSE _ _ _ _ __. Lets see maybe go to the FISA court get a warrant and BUG THE WHOLLY HELL OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, and then have some people by the name of Martin intercept it and put in the New york socialist times BuckOOOOOOOOOO.You want me to go on BUCKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
PRINT THIS BRENDAN COMMUNIST.
You _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
pS: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ YoUR THEATENING ME, JUST LIKE ALL YOUR LITTLE BUDDIES are threatening law abiding Citizens. You want _ _ _ _ _ _ YOU _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
Have a BAD DAY Brendan
Victoria, Victoria, Victoria....what are we going to do about you? It is uptight hippocrates like you and Sen. Larry Craig that are causing the true moral and social decline of this country. There is a very old saying, "Those that protest the loudest most likely are doing so to hide something within themselves that they do not want others to know." What's in your closet Victoria?
Hey jack _ _ _ _ _ _: Guess we need to put a tap on your Phones, email address's your home computer and picket your home. Then put it in the Socialist New York Times you _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
Have a bad Day.
Ps jack _ _ _ _ anyword from the ACLU what you _ _ _ _ _ _ - are doing????????????????
klatu:
Wow, the special formatting you did really made that stand out. . .not sure where you got the idea I was a communist, the idea of communism/socialism on anything but a voluntary basis (i.e., not gov't sanctioned/mandated) is abhorrent to me. I'm a Libertarian, point-in-fact; the whole point being if two other people wanna get married (provided the usual, consenting, adults, etc.), is none of your business. I'd just as soon the states treat marriage for EXACTLY what it is under laws in all 50 states -- a civil contract.
The fact here is, signing a petition is giving your information to the public. Always has been. Where was everyone complaining on the petition before, that you signed? That info was public too. If you believe in what that petition does, have the balls to stand up and admit it -- and be publicly known for doing so.
Ask Massachusets what they did about this, when it was done there. And there's one other state, too.
Better yet, call the Oregon Secretary of State’s office, and ask them yourself about the legality of this. You can piss and moan all you want, but you sign it, you're gonna be on the website -- there's nothing that can be done. And thanks everyone, for linking to us, makes it easier to google for us :)
John Q said... the whole point being if two other people wanna get married Klatu, its none of your business.
Klatu said: John Socialist Q, bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
_ _ _ _ _. CALL OFF YOUR DOGS.
Ps: the next SOS WILL BE A REPUBLICANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Wow, what a bunch of immature posts. Some of the more childish I have seen. At any rate, Aktaion, your post persuaded me that I need to get my name on this petition and at least collect a handful of signatures, something I was not previously inclined to do.
I do not support the "marriage by another name" law the legislature passed and though I am a bit skeptical that the sponsors of the referendum are going to get enough signatures to make the ballot, I want to at least do my part.
As for petition signers names being public information, that has indeed been the case from the beginning. If you are willing to pay the copying fee, you can ge the names of everyone who has signed an initiative petition going back several years. I doubt that many mind that. After all, their names on their voter registration cards are also public information and can even be purchased for a fee, provided the names are not used for a commercial purpose.
Dear Troutdale Councior Canfield,
It would be nice if you're right.
Thanks!
Thanks Bill Sizemore, appreciate it.
The trolls are going crazy!
Thanks for helping victoria
KING CITY, OREGON - Homosexual activists are using dirty tricks again in an attempt to undermine the credibility of faith-based organizations working to gather petition signatures in opposition to domestic partnership bills slated to become Oregon law in January. Those faith-based groups include Restore America, Concerned Oregonians and Defense of Marriage and Family Again!
A Portland lawyer with ties to at least one homosexual activist group is accusing faith-based organizations of unlawful fundraising and political activity.
The target of the accusations are organizers working to collect 55,179 signatures by September 25 to place referenda before the voters during the November 4th general election, measures allowing voters to decide if gays should have marriage benefits and special rights.
However, rather than allow voters to decide the future of traditional marriage in Oregon, legal and political activists are attempting to derail the democratic process, in much the same way they derailed Ralph Nader's bid to get his name on the state ballot during the presidential election three years ago.
Oregon Voters and Opponents of Petition Efforts are at Loggerheads
In 2004, Oregonians voted in favor of Measure 36, to amend the Oregon Constitution to state that marriage is "between a man and a woman only."
However, on May 9th this year, Governor Kulongoski signed House Bill 2007 and Senate Bill 2, both slated to become law on January 1, 2008. Both measures were viewed by many as behind the scenes legislative maneuvers to circumvent Measure 36 and the will of the majority.
HB 2007 provides the benefits of marriage to homosexuals in violation of the will of the people.
SB 2 provides specials rights to homosexuals and "will have a chilling effect upon free speech, employer's rights, parental rights, and what is taught in the classroom," according to a press release from Concerned Oregonians. SB 2 forces one kind of morality on all Oregonians, carries the threat of legal action for non-compliance and forces citizens to accept immoral behavior.
Complaint 'Tainted'
Portland lawyer Margaret Olney of Smith, Diamond & Olney, filed a complaint with the Director of Elections John Lindback on September 4, 2007 alleging that faith-based organizations Concerned Oregonians, Defense of Marriage and Family, and Restore America, are acting unlawfully in gathering petition signatures to prevent HB 2007 and SB2 from becoming law. Olney alleged these groups are misrepresenting their status as political committees, inappropriately promising tax credits to donors, and are unlawfully soliciting donations.
Olney's firm has been closely associated with the gay rights organization Basic Rights Oregon. (Three years ago Olney was criticized by the Nader campaign for leveling accusations against Nader signature gatherers trying to place his name on the Oregon ballot, more below.)
The Basic Rights Oregon (BRO) press release came out one day after Olney filed her complaint. In the past, Smith, Diamond and Olney was listed as supportive of BRO. Olney has done legal work for BRO. In 2004 she worked with BRO trying to prevent Measure 36 from being placed before the voters, claiming churches were using food to force the poor to sign petitions. In this instance too, Olney worked with others to file a complaint with the Director of Elections.
Olney's Bogus Complaint in 2004 Against DOMC
All Three Groups Deny Allegations
Basic Rights Oregon has instructed its members to scrutinize petition workers with Restore America to "witness" infractions of law to prepare a lawsuit challenging the legality of petitions eventually submitted to the director of elections.
Now, a Massachusetts-based gay rights organization called Know Thy Neighbor is now working in Oregon, attracted by HB 2007 and SB 2. This group threatens to post names and addresses of all Oregonians supportive of the petition/referendum movement, clearly an attempt to intimidate Oregonians as they tried intimidating voters in Massachusetts and Florida.
Some residents in those states report harassment and intimidation following publication of their names and addresses, acts of discrimination homosexual activists claim they are working to eradicate.
Spokespeople with all three traditional morality organizations deny Olney's allegations insisting they've complied with all state laws and rules governing political activity and the gathering of signatures.
Know Thy Neighbor Tactics Come To Oregon
The CPA for Concerned Oregonians www.concernedoregonians.com is preparing a detailed reply to the Olney complaint. A spokesman there reports the allegations are untrue. Concerned Oregonians does not pay anyone to collect signatures, and is prevented from registering as a political committee until such time as the referenda sought are certified by the elections division. All required federal and state filings have been accomplished on time.
David Crowe, Founder and Executive Director of Restore America www.restoreamerica.org assured Oregon voters his organization operates legally.
Concerning the petition drive to place referenda on the November ballot he said: "Defending traditional marriage and morality is not about discrimination, and common sense citizens know that. It is about what is moral and what is not, what is marriage and what is not, and the right of all Oregonians to make moral distinctions and decisions based on their moral values.
"Oregonians should not be deceived or dictated to by the Governor and a small but vociferous minority and their misguided friends in Portland. Instead, they should sign petitions 303 and 304, and let the people of Oregon decide what is best for Oregonians."
Crowe said he views the complaint filed by Olney as another in her firm's history of unethical tactics, noting the apparent ties between the Governor's office and various opposition efforts, such as the out-of-state organization Know Thy Neighbor.
Three years ago Olney was criticized for sending threatening letters to Ralph Nader organizers. At the time Nader was running for President. Olney wrote to Nader workers telling them she was investigating their petition gathering practices, threatening them with felony charges, imprisonment and fines to $100,000.
At the time, Nader's campaign manager Theresa Amato said Olney's letter constituted "a blatant attempt to intimidate campaign workers and disrupt and interfere with the Nader Campaign, and may constitute a violation of Oregon Statues and Federal Election Law."
Amato asked the state director of elections, John Lindback, to demand Olney cease and desist her actions.
Olney's Tactics as seen in 2004
Olney: Doing Damage any way she can
To our knowledge Lindback never ordered Olney to desist, Olney's allegations were never proven, but Nader's name never appeared on the ballot either.
The director of elections eventually concluded the Nader Campaign did not have enough signatures to place his name on the ballot. The courts first contradicted that determination, and then on appeal, upheld the administrative decision of state government, leaving Nader off the ballot.
Interestingly, and in spite of Olney's ethics, she was appointed to the Governor's Law Commission on Government Ethics, in November 2005.
Olney's Reward
Kulongoski's Cabal
Kulongoski fast-tracked HB 2007 and SB 2, contradicting the will of the people expressed at the ballot box in 2004. Whether coincidence or not, there appear strong connections between the Governor's Mansion and parties working hard to further deny the will of the majority, even to the point of preventing ballot measures from seeing the light of election day.
David Crowe
Director
888-303-1304 Voice Mail
Click www.concernedoregonians.com for more information.
"Impress upon your children the truth that the exercise of the elective franchise is a social duty of as solemn a nature as man can be called to perform; that a man may not innocently trifle with his vote; that every elector is a trustee as well for others as himself and that every measure he supports has an important bearing on the interests of others as well as on his own." Daniel Webster, October 5, 1840
Copyright © 2007, Restore America. All Rights Reserved.
we have not got much time to get signatures in to oppose sb 2 and 2007 Tommorrow is the deadline and
know they neighbor is watching
but we are not Intimidated
but cautious...
hopefully we will get enough signatures to oppose sb 2 and hb 2007
Currently, in Oregon, there is a citizen drive to put to a statewide vote Oregon's new domestic partnership laws set to go into effect on January 1, 2008. There is also a petition to block a law designed to make it illegal to refuse to hire a homosexual at your own business or to serve him at your restaurant. This is in spite of the fact that homosexuality is a moral issue and that we have rights to our own religious beliefs.
Commentary:
It is truly freaky that anyone believes he has a RIGHT to a job to begin with! If we cannot prove ourselves to be an asset to company, who are any of us to use our government to force a company to hire us? If someone does not believe that we will be an asset to his company for any reason, why should he be forced to hire us?
It is a sad day in America when our government forces us to do business with those who we simply do not care to do business with for whatever reason we do not choose to do business with them. And this goes for both ends, as an employee and as an employer.
Last I knew, we could not be forced to serve anyone. Clearly forcing a restaurant owner to serve a homosexual, when it goes against his religious beliefs to have anything to do with a homosexual, is against the U.S. Constitution in two points.
And is not the forcing on a person to employ another person, the parallel of slavery for the employer? Is he not being forced to serve/give a position to a man who he does not wish to give a position to? If our government declared that man cannot be forced to work for another man, then should not a man who has people working for him, be afforded the same justice to hire those who he wants to work for him?
Where has America gone?
anyone who intimidates someone by taking someone name and using it against him is called a hate crime
a person has a right to stand up for his or her
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The Constitution of the United States is clear. Every citizen is already guaranteed equal protection under the law. A special “hate crimes” law is NOT NEEDED. Further, it would be unconstitutional, denying believers their right to free speech and freedom of religion. We cannot let this bill take hold and make sharing the Bible’s truths illegal in this land we love. Please read the Center for Moral Clarity’s Petition to Oppose Hate Crimes Legislation below, then complete the form to electronically add your name. Your petition will be delivered to your senators in Washington, D.C., along with thousands of others for maximum impact. We must act now. The Senate is poised to take action on this legislation within the next few weeks. Make your voice heard on this imperative matter!
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All Members of the United States Senate
As a concerned Christian, I hereby petition you to oppose the upcoming “Hate Crimes” bill. This flawed legislation would create special classes of victims whose pain and suffering, whose very lives, would be defined as worth more than other lives under the law. This is an unconstitutional principle, and it must be stopped now. Further, it could be interpreted to place limits on the free speech of Christians and others whose faith calls for them to morally oppose certain lifestyle choices. This denial of free speech to certain segments of the population is also unconstitutional, and is dangerous for the future of our nation. Please do all that you can to see that this faulty piece of legislation is defeated in the Senate.
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A Crime is a Crime
Congress is currently considering a bill known as the Matthew Shepard Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (S. 1105), which would add sexual orientation, gender, gender identity and disability to existing hate crimes law. The US House recently passed the legislation 237-180. It is now pending in the Senate.
In no way do I condone violent crime committed against anyone, regardless of race, creed, gender, sexual orientation, disability, etc. Anyone who commits a crime deserves the full and appropriate punishment as decreed by law.
However, I strongly object to the idea that a crime is somehow more heinous because it is committed against a certain type of person, elevating them in the eyes of the law to a status higher than that of everyone else.
This legislation is also in clear violation of the US Constitution, 14th Amendment, which affords all citizens equal protection:
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
As I have said before, one can hate the sin and love the sinner. S. 1105 is another attempt by the activist fringes to force the rest of society not just to accept deviant behavior, but to also give that behavior heightened importance in society. In essence, the goal is to make this behavior mainstream and even worthy of special protection.
We are all the same in the eyes of God, and when it is time for judgment, He will consider our good deeds and our sins, our behaviors and misbehaviors. It doesn’t matter if you are gay or straight – a sin is a sin. Crimes should be treated in the same fashion, and in general, established law sufficiently addresses punishment for violent offenders.
This is not an attack on the homosexual lifestyle – sexual deviancy takes on many forms among straight and gay people. However, Americans should not be forced to have to effectively applaud such behavior and even grant special protection to those who sin.
Prominent ex-homosexual activist saved from lifestyle
Don't be fooled with the radical homosexual activists' arguments that this legislation benefits all "gay" and "lesbian" individuals. You do the individual no good to keep them locked in a lifestyle which may, in fact be a compulsion-driven choice. See the amazing story of a former homosexual activist, Michael Glatze, who straightened out his life.
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We’re all prayer warriors that just felt like we needed to do something,” she said. “If there is ever a time to step up and be counted, this is the time.”
For information on the initiative campaign or to request petitions, phone 1-800-355-7047, or go to www.concernedoregonians.com or www.letoregonvote.org. Completed petitions can be sent to 15685 S.W. 116th Ave., PMB 299, King City, OR 97224.
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sin is sin no matter what sin your in you had better get out of it.
Snort!
Referendum #303 has failed.
With love,
Brendan K Callahan
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