Friday, October 27, 2006

*NEW TO THE BLOG: ASK VICTORIA*

MAIL IN BALLOTING

Dear Victoria,

Can it be shown, that the current vote-by-mail process, in Oregon, has more fraud occurring than the combination of show-up-at-the-polls AND absentee-ballot processes in other states? Should this not be shown, before fraud is used as an excuse to eliminate vote by mail? Or are you also proposing that the absentee ballot process be eliminated? Does fraud not usually start with the registration process. Perhaps this is the process that needs more scrutiny (as opposed to the ballot marking and submission process). When you say that Ron Wyden, wants to "further exploit the voter" (as you stated on your radio show) what do you mean? I believe that some want to eliminate vote by mail, because it changes the timing of when people vote. This is a challenge to those using advertising to manipulate the thinking of the voter. Timing is an important element of such advertising.

Dear Gentle Listener,

How about requiring people to show legitimate ID when registering to vote and voting--at a polling place. And by legitimate I DON'T mean ODL's.
If you use an absentee ballot (which could be limited to a certain percentage of voters), your vote will not be counted until you provide legitimate ID if you haven't already.
In just *four* counties in 2004, there were 20,000 votes that were counted without the voter ever sending in the ID required by law. There were 11,000 in MultCo alone. When it was discovered by the SOS's office that Ruth Bendel and Mike Belenisi were requesting and receiving this information, the SOS's office told the County Election offices that it was adviseable--and lawful (cuz he makes up the rules) to destroy those records. Now I'm not a chem trail kind of gal, but that is something that needs to be looked at.
The state of Oregon has a complaint driven system. That means they don't cull through to check to see if those folks ---for example the 152,000--who stayed home in post 2004 elections are REAL citizens--either of this country or legal residents of this state. If you've heard me rant about this before (and if you listen to my show how could you not?) you know that the DMV has a don't ask don't tell policy on citizenship. So when non citizens get their ODL's they're also --by law--given a voter reg card.
80,000 illegal aliens (that we know of) were given driver's licenses during the past few years (the Robleto cases in Wash Co), how many of those people had ballots sent to their "homes" and how many of those ballots were voted? The SOS's office doesn't know because it doesn't check.
It's nothing short of a scandal of enormous proportions.

Sincerely,

Your Devoted Talk Show Host

In addition, please read John Fund’s piece here. Here are the money ‘graphs:

But absentee ballots aren't the answer to election fears. They clearly increase the potential for fraud "The lack of at-the-polls accountability and protection from intimidation makes absentee ballots the tool of choice for those who commit fraud," the Florida Department of Law Enforcement concluded in 1998 after a mayoral election in Miami was thrown out when it was learned "vote brokers" had submitted hundreds of phony absentee ballots. More recently, in Wise County, Va., three elected officials were charged this past March with 900 counts of ballot fraud. They had filled out absentee ballot applications for others, intercepted the ballots in the mail, and then filled them out themselves. Last year a Connecticut state representative admitted, according to the Hartford Courant, that he "illegally induced elderly residents of the Betty Knox housing complex in Hartford to cast absentee ballots for him." He got off with a $10,000 fine and community service.

Mr. Fortier [of the American Enterprise Insititute who’s just written a book on voting] says that greater measures to combat absentee ballot fraud are needed, such as using computer software to check signatures and investigating those that don't match. Similarly, an inked-space could be provided for voters to submit a fingerprint with their absentee ballot--a precaution that is taken in Mexico and several other countries. To provide for voter convenience, Mr. Fortier suggests expanding the number of hours a day that states allow early voting at government buildings, although he believes the early voting period should be limited to 10 days before an election to ensure that as many voters as possible have the same information available to them when they make their choices.

9 comments:

whatever said...

What ID do you propose people use? Will everyone need to get a passport? A passport is expensive. I recently had to obtain a passport for business travel and it was some what of a hassle. They would not accept my Oregon id card, issued by the DMV, as proof of identity.
We (at least I) don't want a process which prevents lower income people from voting. I don't want to prevent the less mobile people from voting.
I don't want to restrict the right to vote to those who can afford passports, are healthy, and are available and mobile the exact day of the election.

Klatu said...

1. Vote by Mail should be repealed
2. Motor Voter should be repealed
3. An absentee Voter should vote only at County Election offices in person. No DMV'S,grocery stores, department stores, etc. as other States do.

4. All voting will be done on Election day except the absentee voting at the County Election's office "in Person" not more then 2 weeks ahead of an Election Day.

5. To get a ballot you must show a valid Picture ID Oregon Driver Lisense or Identity card with a current Bar code attached and a thumb print that is kept on file.

5. Ballots will only be opened in Oregon at 8:00 pm the day of Election. Not in advance.

6. To register to vote you must go to your County Elections office no later then 2 weeks before an Election in person, and must show the same Valid picture ID Oregon Drivers License, Identity Card, with an
up to date bar code intact and a thumb print scan.
Registration cards will only be given out and received in person at County Elections office no later then 2 weeks before an Election.


7. To obtain your Ballot your Oregon drivers license,Idendity
card will be scanned first and thumb print varified before a ballot will be issued to a voter.

Klatu said...

Ps: Oh and the Picture ID and Thumb Print will replace the outdated hand written 'SIGNATURE".

Klatu said...

Pps: And Ballots will be print in "ENGLISH" only.

whatever said...

Why ENGLISH only?
If literacy is going to be a requirement, maybe we should require that a person answer a basic fact question for each candidate or issue they vote for, to indicate some knowledge of the candidate or issue? Knowledge of an issue or candidate seems way more important to me than knowledge of the English language.

Now had you said PLAIN ENGLISH, then I might wonder if you were referring to some of the ballot measures.

BEAR said...

"English only" is the prerequisite for citizenship.....period. whatever's phony implication that English is a discriminatory form of communication is a further example of lefty nonsense. My passport required more proof of identity than the (now discredited) ODL. The rest of his complaints are equally as specious. Given the depths to which this state has sunk to accomodate criminals, I would recommend that DNA be among the tests....lol.

BEAR said...

BTW, since voter and election fraud are the sole provinces of the libs, maybe they are complaining just a tad too much re attempts to stem the flow? No surprise......sheesh.

whatever said...

bear, you have this a little mixed up. It is vandalism (sign destruction, tire slashing) which democrats have (at least in the last few years) seem to have engaged in more than Republicans.

Fraud (at least suspected fraud cases reported in the last few years) seems to perpetuate from (and for the benefit of) both parties. If I attempt to look for cases, in recent past news articles, I see mostly cases of Republicans suspected of perpetuating fraud. However, I realize this is because the Republicans won the last presidential election, therefore it was the Democrats searching for the fraud.

I am a proponent of voting literacy. However, printing ballots in English, and not also requiring the literacy to read the instructions, is not the answer.
We could have a discussion as to what level of literacy should be required, and how it should be determined.

Victoria Taft said...

Go Klatu go!