Lew: As one of the liberals (or as you would call me, one of the 'lefties') who intermittently contribute to this blog, let me say this: I do not blame George Bush, or anyone in his administration, for the North Korean detonation of a nuclear device. He did not do it; he did not want it to be done; he did not conspire to have it done. He did what he could to prevent it from being done. I trust that clears the air a bit.
Whether the United States now works through the United Nations or in concert with other nations outside U.N. auspices is up to Mr. Bush. However, given that the Peoples Republic of China and Russia both spoke out strongly against this test, I do hope the United States acts with other nations rather than trying to respond alone. We actually have here an opportunity to build ties with other nations rather than having to go it alone, and I hope that Mr. Bush takes advantage of the fact that other nations are just as upset as we are about this situation.
Much can be said about Clinton's fault, Bush's fault and others. But, in the end, you are right, Kim Jung Il is to blame. He starves his people while pursuing a WMD.
Last I heard, Bush is going through the Useless Nations. I don't expect much form them other than to look at NK and go tsk, tsk, tsk. Maybe point afinger at them (and not even the right one, either).
Given that so many nearby NK opposed it and even China told Il he was on his own even before he detonated it, and given that China and Japan just met yesterday and voiced strong opposition to this "test," I'd let China and the rest handle it. We're sort of busy right now.
Well, here we have one of those situations if which thigs don't quite make sense. The United States inssits that North Korea must give up its nuclear weapons. The North Koreans have indicated that they would be willing to discuss this, if the United States agrees to direct talks. The current admnistration refuses to enter into direct talks. Can someone tell me why we will not sit down with the North Koreans, just the American diplomats and the North Korean diplomats? Given that North Korea is now a nuclear power, it would seem that direct talks would be in order.
David, I think President Bush answered your question quite adequately this morning. He was sked something very similar at his news conference and his answer was words to the effect of, "for sometime now I have been hearing my administration is too quick to go it alone, something I disagree with, but now, I am beinf told to do just that, go alone."
He also quite adequately pointed out that the go it alone negotians did not work, so no need to repeat them. Others are involved in this and should also be at the table.
You guys can't have it both ways, David. As Bush noted, he has been continually condemned for not including others (which he actually has) and now, he is being condemned for including others.
"The UN is in charge." Now there is a scary statement if there ever was one. Yesterday the UN Security Council pass a unanimous resolution to sanction (whatever that means) North Korea for their nuclear tests and threats. All well and good. Now today I heard on the radio while I was in Seattle that China isn't going to carry out their part of the agreement. Look for France to opt out tomorrow and say they are too afraid to go along with the "sanctions". And, of course, the Germans will follow along in lockstep.
This whole so called sanctions deal isn't worth the paper (probably Chinese made) it is written on.
It is time the UN got the hell out of our country and moved to the Presidential shanty in Paris, so they can be with their own kind. Then maybe the City of New York could use that building for something productive, like an office complex or expensive condo-complex. Or, better yet, let the UN stay there and paint a big target on the side for the next Mohammed Atta wanna-be. Then it would be something useful.
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I'll save the lefties the trouble-
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT
There, now you can all concentrate of real important stuff, like which Republican may have entered into internet sex with what ex-page.
Lew:
As one of the liberals (or as you would call me, one of the 'lefties') who intermittently contribute to this blog, let me say this: I do not blame George Bush, or anyone in his administration, for the North Korean detonation of a nuclear device. He did not do it; he did not want it to be done; he did not conspire to have it done. He did what he could to prevent it from being done. I trust that clears the air a bit.
Whether the United States now works through the United Nations or in concert with other nations outside U.N. auspices is up to Mr. Bush. However, given that the Peoples Republic of China and Russia both spoke out strongly against this test, I do hope the United States acts with other nations rather than trying to respond alone. We actually have here an opportunity to build ties with other nations rather than having to go it alone, and I hope that Mr. Bush takes advantage of the fact that other nations are just as upset as we are about this situation.
Aw David, you spoil my sarcastic fun ;)
Much can be said about Clinton's fault, Bush's fault and others. But, in the end, you are right, Kim Jung Il is to blame. He starves his people while pursuing a WMD.
Last I heard, Bush is going through the Useless Nations. I don't expect much form them other than to look at NK and go tsk, tsk, tsk. Maybe point afinger at them (and not even the right one, either).
Given that so many nearby NK opposed it and even China told Il he was on his own even before he detonated it, and given that China and Japan just met yesterday and voiced strong opposition to this "test," I'd let China and the rest handle it. We're sort of busy right now.
Well, here we have one of those situations if which thigs don't quite make sense. The United States inssits that North Korea must give up its nuclear weapons. The North Koreans have indicated that they would be willing to discuss this, if the United States agrees to direct talks. The current admnistration refuses to enter into direct talks. Can someone tell me why we will not sit down with the North Koreans, just the American diplomats and the North Korean diplomats? Given that North Korea is now a nuclear power, it would seem that direct talks would be in order.
Ronry...so ronry...
David, I think President Bush answered your question quite adequately this morning. He was sked something very similar at his news conference and his answer was words to the effect of, "for sometime now I have been hearing my administration is too quick to go it alone, something I disagree with, but now, I am beinf told to do just that, go alone."
He also quite adequately pointed out that the go it alone negotians did not work, so no need to repeat them. Others are involved in this and should also be at the table.
You guys can't have it both ways, David. As Bush noted, he has been continually condemned for not including others (which he actually has) and now, he is being condemned for including others.
"The UN is in charge." Now there is a scary statement if there ever was one. Yesterday the UN Security Council pass a unanimous resolution to sanction (whatever that means) North Korea for their nuclear tests and threats. All well and good. Now today I heard on the radio while I was in Seattle that China isn't going to carry out their part of the agreement. Look for France to opt out tomorrow and say they are too afraid to go along with the "sanctions". And, of course, the Germans will follow along in lockstep.
This whole so called sanctions deal isn't worth the paper (probably Chinese made) it is written on.
It is time the UN got the hell out of our country and moved to the Presidential shanty in Paris, so they can be with their own kind. Then maybe the City of New York could use that building for something productive, like an office complex or expensive condo-complex. Or, better yet, let the UN stay there and paint a big target on the side for the next Mohammed Atta wanna-be. Then it would be something useful.
I'll bet I get a lot of "outraged grief" from the liberals looking in. Oh, Well------
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