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Should university campuses be allowed to boot military recruiters off campus? What about their speech codes? What about diversity? Just askin'...
Monday, December 05, 2005
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Specific examples?
Is this the story you are eluding to with recruiters on campus?
Clash over military recruiters on campus
And if so, who has a say? The government can just cut the universities funding if they don't comply. Sounds like you are not allowed to have an opinion.
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A Military Career is just as honorable as any other. If we are to entrust our young to make important decisions, like voting, marriage and such, why can't we entrust them to make an important decisions like enlisting?
If, for some reason, recruiters are barred from campuses, it would only be fair to ban all anti-war and anti-Military actions as well.
This case was heard in the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals (way) back on Nov. 29, 2004 - where FAIR won their case. Additionally, Yale law school and students also prevailed in challenging the provision in a lower federal court.
The school's policy is not to ban (only) recruiters but to ban ALL "employers who discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation."
I am not making a statement of opinion here, just outlining some facts that may have not been considered before some things were implied during the show. If this was covered then it can't hurt to have some sources of fact hanging around - just for fun.
WSJ.com - Battle Over Recruiting
US Supreme Court 2005-2006
Two things to consider: one is the national interest, and two is don't ask don't tell really discriminatory? There are lots of gays in the military. The military plays it smart by indulging the issue of sexuality by keeping everybody's sexuality on the down low.
i meant by NOT indulging their sexuality
Another article that reads as headlines seen this last week, yet was published in 1999:
Law schools resisting policy
I think it's more than obvious that the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy still supports a policy of discrimination, even if not in an obvious form.
The military still has the power (and does) show the door to any soldier who acknowledges or is found to be gay/bisexual. What about that is NOT discrimination? And national interest? Can you prove that the estimated number of new recruits gained from these schools far outnumbers the total service members kicked out, simply because they were gay, regardless of their skills?
There is a solution on the table, in the form of the Military Readiness Enhancement Act (H.R. 1059).
“There is historic, bipartisan progress being made in the fight to lift the ban,” said C. Dixon Osburn, executive director of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN). “In just over six months, one hundred elected representatives from both parties have come together to call for repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.’ Public support for their effort is strong: 79% of Americans support allowing gays to serve openly, and clear majorities of conservatives, church-goers and junior enlisted personnel believe the time has come to place national defense ahead of federal discrimination.”
Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Pursue, Don't Harass
H.R. 1059
Who says that the Military has to be fair to all? The Military service is unlike any other job you can find in America.
As a former member of the military we were not allowed to speak out against the government, administration or their policies while in public or in uniform. Does this destroy the First Amendment?
No, since Military duty is not an obligation thrusted upon everyone. Therefore, to keep a force strong there are certain moral constraints which all service members are made fully aware of and understand the implications of not following said rules.
Why are their rules about officers and enlisted fraternizing? Because there is a possiblity of destroying a strong command structure. In the same sense, soldiers need to put their lives in the hands of their fellow soldier. Adding additional stressors to a situation such as combat can cause far worse things to occur.
My humble educated opinion.
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